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re: Settle a drunken argument: Tyson vs Bruce Lee no holds barred KO match
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:01 am to Remo Williams
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:01 am to Remo Williams
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He developed his own fighting style. I'm sure he sparred a bit.
Jeet Kune Do
Glad you posted this. My BJJ instructor also trains heavily in JKD. I am lukewarm to it as a fighting style since my background is boxing and tend to always give a stand-up edge to a good boxer. However, Bruce Lee was a freak. He was very fast with his hands and feet. He would probably win in a straight up street fight but if Tyson caught him clean, God help the man.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:01 am to theunknownknight
quote:. Realizing this, are efforts are futile
1. There are those saying Lee really didn't know martial arts outside of Hollywood.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:01 am to stout
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Yea and I am sure the 44 professional fighters Tyson defeated by KO will say he was no slouch in punching mechanics.
You can argue all day long but you'll still be wrong. Size does not equal strength. Proper mechanics go a LONG way.
Where is kbeezy when you need him?
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:01 am to Henry Jones Jr
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He fought in his lifetime. Why does it matter if it was competitive?
I play basketball, why does it matter if I'm not in the NBA
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:02 am to jg8623
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I play basketball, why does it matter if I'm not in the NBA
Totally different animal.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:02 am to Ace Midnight
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Where he had a speed advantage - at least prior to Tokyo (and ultimately, prison) - was tremendous hand speed. I cannot remember a heavyweight with that kind of hand speed with power punches - that, along with 1-punch knockout power with either hand, and more than 1 punch (uppercut and cross), made him such a formidable opponent - when he was younger, anywa
yea i meant hand speed, sorry.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:02 am to MWP
quote:ok, so in your opinion, does he catch him?
Glad you posted this. My BJJ instructor also trains heavily in JKD. I am lukewarm to it as a fighting style since my background is boxing and tend to always give a stand-up edge to a good boxer. However, Bruce Lee was a freak. He was very fast with his hands and feet. He would probably win in a straight up street fight but if Tyson caught him clean, God help the man.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:02 am to Mike da Tigah
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but Lee is master of the 1 inch punch, and the fastest man I've ever seen in my life.
I bet you loved watching "Hong Kong Phooey" as a kid!!! Lol...
Tyson was a professional boxer who could hit like a mule. Lee did one finger push ups...
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:03 am to theunknownknight
quote:that being said, I'm not questioning Tyson's mechanics or punching power. I think he's putting out more pounds/sq inch than lee
Proper mechanics go a LONGEST way.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:04 am to theunknownknight
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You can argue all day long but you'll still be wrong. Size does not equal strength. Proper mechanics go a LONG way
I give you a choice to get punched in the face by Mike Tyson or Bruce Lee. Who are you taking?
Like Tyson didn't have good punching mechanics? lawlz?
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:04 am to Henry Jones Jr
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He fought in his lifetime. Why does it matter if it was competitive? Are you saying Tyson wins because he was a competitive fighter? Because that's ludicrous.
I'm not saying that at all. I would just like to see the dude in a real fight.
IDGAF who Bruce Lee trained. IDGAF about his neato demonstrations. I want to see him kick somebody's arse.
We've all heard a million stories about how bad arse Bruce Lee was. I want to see that shite.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:04 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Totally different animal.
No shite, I was just pointing out how dumb that point was
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:04 am to lake chuck fan
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Tyson was a professional boxer who could hit like a mule. Lee did one finger push ups...
This statement shows how little about Bruce Lee you know.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:04 am to theunknownknight
Still not seeing the irony.
Can you link to Bruce Lee training Ali? I'm not seeing that anywhere.
Can you link to Bruce Lee training Ali? I'm not seeing that anywhere.
quote:No one is saying that. He definitely knows martial arts.
1. There are those saying Lee really didn't know martial arts outside of Hollywood.
quote:And saying that Lee trained Ali doesn't mean Bruce Lee beats Ali or Tyson.
2. The thread is specifically about Lee versus a boxer
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:05 am to MWP
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stand-up edge
I don't think Tyson has to just stand up. Apparently no one thinks Tyson could even get close enough to touch Lee with his pinky. If Tyson grabs the dude, it's over.
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Tyson caught him clean
If Tyson caught Lee clean with no gloves on, not only would the fight be over, but so would Lee's life.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:05 am to stout
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I had no idea Ali owed his whole career to Lee
Typical lazy oversimplification of what I said so you can feel you scored a point. Congrats on arguing with yourself.
"Learned from" shows a respect for knowledge and authority on a subject. That's my point. Lee was a respected fighter by world champions. That says something.
Get outa here with that lazy straw man nonsense.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:05 am to MrFreakinMiyagi
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IDGAF who Bruce Lee trained. IDGAF about his neato demonstrations. I want to see him kick somebody's arse. We've all heard a million stories about how bad arse Bruce Lee was. I want to see that shite
This
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:05 am to theunknownknight
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You can argue all day long but you'll still be wrong. Size does not equal strength. Proper mechanics go a LONG way.
I'm saying Tyson also had great punching mechanics to go with his natural power, dummy.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:07 am to stout
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People forget how fast Tyson was for such a big guy. Eveyone ever only thinks of his power when he was actually very fast too.
LINK
He was like a wound up spring ready to pop at any moment
Tyson was very fast, especially for his size. But he was not Bruce Lee fast.
Bruce was almost impossibly fast and amazingly strong for his size. He wouldn't have the 1hit knockout punch Tyson had but he doesn't need it. Lee had a size/strength combo that was unparalleled.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:07 am to theunknownknight
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"Learned from" shows a respect for knowledge and authority on a subject. That's my point. Lee was a respected fighter by world champions. That says something.
Ali was also about being a media whore before they existed in the sports world. Part of his training with Lee was hyperbole for this very reason. I'm not saying he didn't learn anything from Lee but it still doesn't make anyone's avi "ironic" as you put it earlier.
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