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re: Scientists document evolution of new bird species
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:10 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:10 pm to Darth_Vader
A labradoodle will happily breed with a Labrador, a poodle, a pit bull, or Chihuahua. This new Finch species is breeding true, and even when exposed to other finches will select a mate only of its own species.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 1:30 pm
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:11 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Can't come up with an a tusk retort so you turn into a grammar Nazi.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:12 pm to Darth_Vader
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The "why" of the coupling of two different types of an animal does not matter when it comes to the question I raised
Your question was answered, by myself and others. Just admit you don't understand this science or don't want to accept evolution.
Labrador and poddle = same species (Canis lupus familiaris)
Large cactus finch (Geospiza conirostris) and Medium ground finch (Geospiza fortis) = different species
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:14 pm to shell01
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A labradoodle will happily breed with a Labrador, a poodle, a pit bull, or Chihuahua. This new Finch species is breeding true, and even when exposed to it her finches will select a mate only of its own species.
The article said that "two of these species came together". So I'd say the finch is not as picky when it comes to mating as you think.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:15 pm to Darth_Vader
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Can't come up with an a tusk retort so you turn into a grammar Nazi.
I've answered your question twice as to why they are different things.
But I'm sure a mud-checking biker with a tenuous grasp of the English language or biology knows better than the folks over at Science on why this is important.
Edit to add: I've always been a "grammar Nazi," it's not just for you. Your questions have been answered. Accept them or move on, your continuing to harp on your "point" does not make your "point" valid.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:16 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Your question was answered, by myself and others. Just admit you don't understand this science or don't want to accept evolution.
I understand it. And I understand it's bullshite that this is some sort of "evolutionary milestone". Two different types of Finches fricked and made a new type of finch. It's no different then when two types of dogs frick and make a new type of dog.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:18 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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But I'm sure a mud-checking biker with a tenuous grasp of the English language or biology knows better than the folks over at Science on why this is important.
The moment you have to resort to insults instead of focusing on the subject at hand is the moment you tell the world you've lost the debate.
Have a nice day, dipshit. My work here is done.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:19 pm to Darth_Vader
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I understand it.
Clearly you don't if your argument is this:
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It's no different then when two types of dogs frick and make a new type of dog.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:20 pm to Darth_Vader
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The moment you have to resort to insults instead of focusing on the subject at hand is the moment you tell the world you've lost the debate.
Have a nice day, dipshit. My work here is done
Hey, man, you called me a Nazi, and I both insulted you and focused on the subject at hand.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:21 pm to Darth_Vader
From the actual paper:
As I said, this new species is breeding only with others like it, not either of the "parent" species.
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Genome sequencing of the immigrant identified it as a G. conirostris male that originated on Española >100km from Daphne. From the second generation onwards the lineage bred endogamously, and despite intense inbreeding, was ecologically successful and showed transgressive segregation of bill morphology. This example shows that reproductive isolation, which typically develops over hundreds of generations, can be established in only three.
As I said, this new species is breeding only with others like it, not either of the "parent" species.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:25 pm to Darth_Vader
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Still not buying it.
Then you will never understand it.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:27 pm to Jim Rockford
Can it breed with a Rozy Finch?
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:28 pm to Darth_Vader
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Again, the "new" species of finch has different genes than its parents. I get that. But breeding two different breeds of dogs produces offspring that likewise has different genes. Going back to my labradoodle example. A labradoodle will have different genes than a poodle due to the fact it's a mix of both poodle and lab.
No disrespect intended. You've had some great posts in military history threads. But I don't think I'll accept your assertions in this area.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:30 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Then you will never understand it.
I understand it perfectly.
It's still bullshite that this is supposed to be some sort of evolutionary milestone.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:30 pm to Darth_Vader
Do you even believe in evolution
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:31 pm to Methuselah
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No disrespect intended. You've had some great posts in military history threads. But I don't think I'll accept your assertions in this area.
Fair enough and no sweat off my back.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:34 pm to Darth_Vader
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I understand it perfectly.
It's still bull shite that this is supposed to be some sort of evolutionary milestone.
No, you clearly don't. If you turn a labradoodle loose in a room that is a third labs, a third poodles, and a third labradoodles, it will frick anything.
If you turn this finch loose in a room of the same configuration, 9 times out of 10, it's going to frick it's own species. They observed as much in the study. Only two mated with the two parent species. The rest mated amongst themselves.
I get it, you're a lumper. Nothing wrong with that, except that you're wrong.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:35 pm to Darth_Vader
Hey everyone, don't worry about what all these scientists are doing and spending their whole lives on.
Darth isn't buying it, so that means it's false. We can all move on now.
Darth isn't buying it, so that means it's false. We can all move on now.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:41 pm to saint tiger225
The guy who says “irregardless” is definitely an authority on the matter.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:42 pm to Fun Bunch
No doubt.
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