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re: Scientists discover a genetic link between cannabis use and SCHIZOPHRENIA

Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:09 pm to
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Oh my god.

It is truly sad that people are so ignorant about this stuff. Stop listening to your preacher and 4th grade teacher's opinion on marijuana. They have no clue what they're talking about.


Then why don't you inform us mere peons, Dr. Marijuana?

I would be willing to bet that upwards of 95% of heroin users have used marijuana. You just want to chalk that up to coincidence?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:13 pm to
This is a special new fallacy. Since A occurred prior to B, B clearly caused A.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

I would be willing to bet that upwards of 95% of heroin users have used marijuana. You just want to chalk that up to coincidence?


And now we have the original fallacy.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

I would be willing to bet that upwards of 95% of heroin users have used marijuana.


I would be willing to bet that 100% of heroin users have seen a Bible. Does the Bible cause heroin addiction?

I would be willing to bet that upwards of 98% of heroin addicts have eaten Cheerios. Do Cheerios cause heroin addiction.

I would be willing to bet that 100% of heroin users have sucked on a titty. Do titties cause heroin addiction?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36799 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:20 pm to
I don’t believe this



Neither do I
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

I would be willing to bet that 100% of heroin users have seen a Bible. Does the Bible cause heroin addiction?

I would be willing to bet that upwards of 98% of heroin addicts have eaten Cheerios. Do Cheerios cause heroin addiction.

I would be willing to bet that 100% of heroin users have sucked on a titty. Do titties cause heroin addiction?



Whenever people start injecting bibles, Cheerios, and titties into their body in an unnatural manner to alter their mind you let me know. Then maybe I will take the time to address this elementary argument.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Whenever people start injecting bibles, Cheerios, and titties into their body in an unnatural manner to alter their mind you let me know. Then maybe I will take the time to address this elementary argument.


I've never seen anyone inject a joint, either.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Scientists discover a genetic link between cannabis use and SCHIZOPHRENIA


Bad news for drug addicts.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:45 pm to
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Crazy people are prone to substance abuse. Shocking.



Or rather, "People who are prone to substance abuse are crazy"?
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

The study also showed genetic overlap between cannabis use and the risk of schizophrenia.


An overlap is not the same as a link. The article does not say that there is a causal relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia. OP title is misleading.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

quote:
I would be willing to bet that upwards of 95% of heroin users have used marijuana. You just want to chalk that up to coincidence?


And now we have the original fallacy.



It couldn't be the simple fact that if someone is willing to try Heroin - they are probably also willing to try Marijuana and other less stigmatized drugs. I bet 95% of Heroin users also have smoked cigarettes and tried alcohol.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 5:44 pm to
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Everyone knows meth and heroin messes with brain and development
Did you know that developing brains have a higher percentage of White Matter (compared to Grey Matter)? Did you know that White Matter contains a Higher Number of Cannabinoid Receptors?

Now why would humans evolve in such a way as to have MORE receptors for a unique plants unique products in development of the mind when that mind is what really separates us from all other animals? (or for the Creationists out there: Why would God create us to have a greater density of unique receptors to a unique plant product during our mental growth stage of life?)
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 5:54 pm to
Its false propaganda.

Also morbid the clown didn't understand at all.
He's got a fallacy going.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35527 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

linked


sounds scientific.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18141 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 6:02 pm to
We’ve been seeing this for a while in the Corrections systems across the country. Heavy users seem to be far more likely to have more severe symptoms similar to those of schizophrenia, extreme paranoia and depression. It does seem to diminish over time somewhat.
Posted by SpecialHazard
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2018
1572 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 6:05 pm to
Welp. I take mine in cookie form so I'm all good.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80823 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

A new scientific study has linked smoking cannabis with certain psychiatric conditions such as schizophrenia.
This isn't new news. It's been known. Best to smoke after 25 and brain development has basically completed
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 6:12 pm to
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Did you know that developing brains have a higher percentage of White Matter (compared to Grey Matter)? Did you know that White Matter contains a Higher Number of Cannabinoid Receptors?

Now why would humans evolve in such a way as to have MORE receptors for a unique plants unique products in development of the mind when that mind is what really separates us from all other animals? (or for the Creationists out there: Why would God create us to have a greater density of unique receptors to a unique plant product during our mental growth stage of life?)



I'm not exactly certain of your question, but I think you are meaning to suggest that cb1 and cb2 receptors are
1) unique to humans
2) only activated by plant-based cannabinoids.


If my understanding of your question is correct, your body has "endocannabinoids" that play a role in this system, and the system is present in several other (I believe all but will be lazy on the point since I may be misunderstanding yours) mammals.


I don't mean to belittle the point or miss your argument. If I did, can you please try to restate it? And prior to this, were you familiar with the concept of "endocannabinoids?" I hear the argument from time to time that "marijuana is the only thing this receptor is used for," which simply isn't true-not certain this is where you're trying to go with this post.
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 6:19 pm to
Suddenly every pot head is a scientist. They should have studied the correlation between pot and explaining your trashy behavior with,”You believe everything the government tells you?”
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Member since Sep 2012
724 posts
Posted on 8/28/18 at 6:29 pm to
Just for the record - The Mirror in the UK has a horrible reputation. Don’t assume that because it’s based out of the UK that it’s reputable
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 6:30 pm
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