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science paper -Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles

Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:01 pm
Meanwhile in peer reviewed science...

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/201908.0233/v1?fbclid=IwAR11RGO6S-fyct7JCCK4boSs9kwc5-hf_CCjDDcxZmpruLvaLljaYQQ5TWg

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Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles
Kevin H. Knuth * ORCID logo , Robert M. Powell , Peter A. Reali Version 1 : Received: 21 August 2019 / Approved: 22 August 2019 / Online: 22 August 2019 (11:50:30


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Abstract
A number of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encountered by military, commercial, and civilian aircraft have been reported to be structured craft that exhibit 'impossible' flight characteristics. We consider a handful of well-documented encounters, including the 2004 encounters with the Nimitz Carrier Group off the coast of California, and estimate lower bounds on the accelerations exhibited by the craft during the observed maneuvers. Estimated accelerations range from almost 100g to 1000s of g's with no observed air disturbance, no sonic booms, and no evidence of excessive heat commensurate with even the minimal estimated energies. In accordance with observations, the estimated parameters describing the behavior of these craft are both anomalous and surprising. The extreme estimated flight characteristics reveal that these observations are either fabricated or seriously in error, or that these craft exhibit technology far more advanced than any known craft on Earth. In many cases, the number and quality of witnesses, the variety of roles they played in the encounters, and the equipment used to track and record the craft favor the latter hypothesis that these are indeed technologically advanced craft. The observed flight characteristics of these craft are consistent with the flight characteristics required for interstellar travel. That is, if these observed accelerations were sustainable in space, then these craft could easily reach relativistic speeds within a matter of minutes to hours and cover interstellar distances in a matter of days to weeks, proper time.




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Conclusions
It is difficult to draw any useful conclusions at this point. We have characterized the accelerations 318 of a number of UAVs and have demonstrated that if they are craft then they are indeed anomalous, 319 displaying technical capabilities far exceeding those of our fastest aircraft and spacecraft. It is not clear 320 that these objects are extraterrestrial in origin, but it is extremely difficult to imagine that anyone on 321 Earth with such technology would not put it to use. Moreover, observations of similar UAPs go back 322 to well before the era of flight [1]. Collectively, these observations strongly suggest that these UAVs 323 should be carefully studied by scientists [9–13]. 324

Unfortunately, the attitude that the study of UAVs (UFOs) is “unscientific” pervades the scientific 325 community, including SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) [31], which is surprising, especially 326 since efforts are underway to search for extraterrestrial artifacts in the solar system [32–36], in particular, 327 on the Moon, Mars, asteroids [37], and at Earth-associated Lagrange points. Ironically, such attitudes 328 inhibit scientific study, perpetuating a state of ignorance about these phenomena that has persisted for 329 well over 70 years, and is now especially detrimental, since answers are presently needed [38–43].


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Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:02 pm to
Nobody told me there'd be days like these.

Strange Days indeed.

Most peculiar momma.
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by jonboy
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:05 pm to
What dat means, baw? In English.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:08 pm to
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What dat means, baw? In English.


There is shite flying around the sky and traversing our oceans that defies known physics...
Posted by ThuperThumpin
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:16 pm to
This is interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:23 pm to
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That is, if these observed accelerations were sustainable in space, then these craft could easily reach relativistic speeds within a matter of minutes to hours and cover interstellar distances in a matter of days to weeks, proper time.


So the craft would have to have some sort of inertial dampener to offset such a short time to relativistic speeds, correct?
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:27 pm to
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There is shite flying around the sky and traversing our oceans that defies known physics...


I wouldn't say it defies known physics. We understand what it would take to do what these craft are doing. It just defies our current technological abilities. The physics is the same. The capabilities are different.
Posted by cypresstiger
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:29 pm to
Nobody told me there'd be days like these.
Strange Days indeed.
Most peculiar momma.

---Obviously, John Lennon knew the truth about UFOs. That's why they got rid of him.
Posted by farmertiger
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:32 pm to
Scientist Are Starting to Take Warp Drive Seriously

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In layman's terms, the Alcubierre Drive achieves FTL(faster than light) travel by stretching the fabric of space-time in a wave, causing the space ahead of it to contract while the space behind it expands. In theory, a spacecraft inside this wave would be able to ride this "warp bubble" and achieve velocities beyond the speed of light. This is what is known as the "Alcubierre Metric".


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The sheer amount of positive and negative energy needed to create a warp bubble remains the biggest challenge associated with Alcubierre's concept. Currently, scientists believe that the only way to maintain the negative energy density required to produce the bubble is through exotic matter. Scientists also estimate that the total energy requirement would be equivalent to the mass of Jupiter.



Nice post. I had to see how we stack up. and we're still screwed
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:48 pm to
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There is shite flying around the sky and traversing our oceans that defies known physics...


They shoulda just said that at the beginning of their paper and then said, "here's why". That way fools like me would at least have some idea of what's being said....lol
Posted by ragincajun77
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:52 pm to
Very cool...man I love science
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:53 pm to
Fascinating. I’ve alerted my aerospace engineers to this paper and of course my pilots to keep me abreast of any higgledy piggledy hoopla in the skies.
Posted by PCRammer
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:58 pm to
I mean who doesn't know undernormalized probability compared with minimum acceleration provides a linear motion that would be comparable to circular motion of undernormalized probability and minimum acceleration.

Duh!
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 3:04 pm to
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There is shite flying around the sky and traversing our oceans that defies known physics...


That the US Navy has patented...
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 3:46 pm to
No matter what propulsion system the UAF is using it will still cause a sonic boom right? I may need to reasearched that but....any help?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 3:49 pm to
Ohh to be a test pilot. Would kick arse

Posted by DomincDecoco
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 3:50 pm to
yes but, what is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?
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