re: science paper -Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles

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Nope

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Some of y’all are insufferable

There is a point of being so skeptical to become mindless...

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A peer-reviewed article of this Preprint also exists.

Knuth, K.H.; Powell, R.M.; Reali, P.A. Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles. Entropy 2019, 21, 939. Knuth, K.H.; Powell, R.M.; Reali, P.A.

Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles. Entropy 2019, 21, 939. Journal reference: Entropy 2019, 21, 939 DOI: 10.3390/e21100939

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Scientists also estimate that the total energy requirement would be equivalent to the mass of Jupiter.

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This is where zero point or vacuum energy comes in.

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There is a point of being so gullible to become mindless...

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Either extreme is indeed problematic...

Regarding your comment above, is that directed to me or:

The New York Times
The Washington Post
The mainstream media as a collective
The US Navy



You debate the authenticity of the videos in question? Or the calculations made by the USS Princeton and the operators in the theater / advanced imaging platforms???

I think that it is worthy of scrutiny? I think my position is fair.

You hop into every thread related to these themes to nay say without a substantive rebuttal (mainly invoking the circular logic of “it can’t be possible, so it is not possible”)

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yes but, what is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?

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What do you mean? African or European?

Let me know when the aliens or inter-dimensional humans show up. Hell, let me know when Q shows up.

commentary from Deep Prasad, quantum computing technologist

WRITTEN BY
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CEO of ReactiveQ, BASc. Industrial Engineering ’18,University of Toronto,Physicist and Entrepreneur. Building the world’s most advanced multi-physics system.

https://medium.com/@deep_1645/the-villager-and-the-f-18-6d2ea3a30cd2

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The Villager And The F-18

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As you can see, he says the object looked like a Tic-Tac, except it was 40 feet long. Here is a link to a 270 page paper doing an extensive scientific analysis of every data point that the team could get their hands on in the public domain. Here is another paper, this time from Dr.Kevin Knuth, former NASA research scientist and currently a professor of physics. It is peer reviewed and analyzes a handful of UAP cases, with the Tic-Tac being one of them. Both papers are chock filled with mathematical models that attempt to calculate and infer the g forces and velocities the Tic Tac was able to reach during its interaction with Fravor and his team. This is where things get interesting. According to Kevin Day, he said he tracked the Tic-Tac commander Fravor intercepted go from 28,000 feet to sea-level in approximately 0.8 seconds. This means the Tic-Tac was capable of achieving a velocity of at least 23,864 mph, which is 31 times the speed of sound. The maximum speed of the commander’s F-18 is 1,190 mph. This means the Tic-Tac is 20 times faster than the F-18 (23864mph/1190mph = 20). Let’s say we wanted to calculate the difference in technological capability and speed between the F-18 and the villager in our thought experiment. The fastest mode of transportation the villager can access is a horse, and suppose he’s lucky and owns the world’s fastest horse capable of reaching 55 mph. In his case, the F-18 is 22 times faster than the villager’s horse. So, roughly speaking, the Tic-Tac was to Fravor, what an F-18 would have been to a villager in the mid-17th century.

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Okay, so the Navy has gone head to head against something centuries ahead of us technologically, and they did not want the story out. Now it’s gotten to a point where pilots are encountering these kinds of objects almost daily in recent years. With the shapes of the objects ranging from cubes, gyroscopes and saucers. None of this is weird at all, nope.

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Over the past year, I’ve gotten to know online and in-person, some of the people who were present and onboard the USS Princeton and USS Nimitz carrier during the days the Tic-Tacs were observed. These are critically thinking, humble and mentally-strong people whose lives were changed by a genuinely profound and extraordinary experience. They are equally as lost as you and I are, and have various theories about what the Tic-Tac was and where it came from. I have my own, which is that it was not made by human hands. After meeting people from DoD, CIA and NASA who were or are intricately involved with the UFO phenomena at an official capacity, as well as doing my own investigations in general, I concluded that there really does exist extremely advanced technology manufactured by a non-human intelligence and the art of studying them is extremely lucrative plus critical to national security. Imagine being the country reverse engineering technology centuries ahead of their time, and succeeding in certain key ways. A person could become theoretically invincible with the capabilities of the Tic-Tac. An unstoppable adversary isn’t a good idea for anyone in my opinion. If someone does own this technology, they’ve managed to elude billions of people in the development of the tech (the Tic-Tac in this case).

They’re also spending a lot of the time they interact with the human population by reminding the military that their efforts in defending themselves against UAP are futile. I was told that the details of any attempt to contact UFOs is classified. This is also something Luis Elizondo publicly stated in the Unidentified docu-series. The seemingly increased rate of incursions without possibly any direct communication on the UAP’s end signals to me that they’re sending a message but through their actions. I believe we are getting acclimatized to the presence of one or more super intelligent civilizations and they are not interested in going through something as primitive as our governments or landing on the Whitehouse. Instead, they’re becoming an ongoing, polite pain in the neck to those in charge while also revealing themselves slowly to the population on an individual basis. To the point that the idea of their existence spreads quickly through credible/influential individuals (pilots, radar operators, civilians and military scientists, etc.) and not just the top-down organizations like Government. Kevin Day said the Tic-Tacs acted like they just wanted to be left alone. If that’s true about them, then maybe these civilizations are using invisibility cloaking, holograms and spacetime manipulation among other technologies to go about their day undisturbed. Every now and then advanced sensors like the AESA pick up on them regardless, which leads to incidents like the Tic-Tac. In my opinion, I could see that happening to us humans too one day when we have the ability to go to other planets and study more primitive or developing civilizations. There would be so many new lifeforms to study, and an entirely unique path that evolution would take. This would lead to fundamentally different kinds of civilizations and cultures worthy of studying without contaminating ideally. Maybe we’re the equivalent of an uncontacted tribe on Earth, where we’re mostly left alone to our savagery and ignorance. Every now and then one of us catches a glimpse of an airplane and our tribal perception thinks it’s God or something mythical when it’s really only advanced technology. In any case, I hope you enjoyed this deep dive into what I think it means for the Navy to indirectly acknowledge the existence of the Tic-Tac. We are in uncharted territories and I could not be more excited. It is my view that if we learn to overcome our ignorance, accept a humble perspective that we could be one of many intelligent races out there in the Universe and then attempt to make contact with whoever is behind these UAPs, we’ll advance enormously as a civilization from an intellectual and probably spiritual perspective. Right now though, it seems that we lack so much order that we can’t even properly sort out the question of whether we’re alone in the Universe or not. Most people around the world are likely not prepared to accept one on one contact with an “Alien intelligence”, for lack of a better word. They have not had the time to digest the possibility or incorporate it into their world view. Until that changes, I think we can expect a continued increase in UAP incursions as time goes by. We need to keep in mind though that just as the villager lacked the ability to photograph an F-18, we may lack the tools to “photograph” or truly capture the presence and entirety of the Tic-Tac for now.

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The first person to respond in the comments is Garry Nolan

Dr. Nolan is the Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Stanford University School of Medicine. He trained with Leonard Herzenberg (for his Ph.D.) and Nobelist Dr. David Baltimore (for postdoctoral work for the first cloning/characterization of NF-?B p65/ RelA and the development of rapid retroviral production systems). He has published over 300 research articles and is the holder of 20 US patents, and has been honored as one of the top 25 inventors at Stanford University.

But ole Jake says this is fodder for the gullible and simpletons...

So damn crazy. Wish there were explanations for this stuff in my lifetime.

Enjoy...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30499/the-truth-is-the-military-has-been-researching-anti-gravity-for-nearly-70-years

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The Truth Is The Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 70 Years It sounds like science fiction, but the military began working to overcome and harness gravity in the 1950s. From what we can tell, it never stopped.

BY BRETT TINGLEYOCTOBER 29, 2019

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In our dive into what seems like something of a bottomless rabbit hole of government studies into this exotic scientific realm, we have collected a body of research, news reports, and firsthand accounts. These establish the fact that the types of "anti-gravity", propellantless propulsion, and mass reduction technologies described in the Navy’s recent "UFO" patents are at least based on more than 60 years of peer-reviewed research conducted and published by the likes of the American Institute of Physics, NASA, the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, and the Air Force Research Laboratory.

While we can't say that any of this research led to actually being able to harness "anti-gravity" or extremely advanced next-generation propulsion technologies to any useful extent, the most advanced laboratories under control of both the armed forces and the academic world have certainly been trying their best to get there for the better part of a century. Also, keep in mind that all of this information comes from unclassified sources, and there is definitely more of it than just what is represented here. We can only wonder how much work has been done in the classified realm on what was once openly considered the next massive revolution in aerospace technology.

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Black world tech vs the “others”

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Throughout his short speech given at the roundtable, Witten says that even though he faced ridicule within the scientific community for his research, there was no shortage of people who would tell him they knew how to achieve anti-gravity:

“Some of them were very simple ideas. The simple ideas are always hard to combat. Suppose somebody comes to you and says 'I have a rock of bismuth that demonstrates anti-gravity.' What do you do? There was a Vice President of the Martin Company who brought that up, he said 'I read about a guy in Indiana who says a rock of bismuth…' I said 'It’s nonsense.' He said ‘How do you know it’s nonsense? How do you know there’s no isotope of bismuth that shows anti-gravity?' What do you say to that?”

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Still, Talbert points out that some of the brightest minds in aerospace engineering and physics were devoted to studying gravity at the time, studies which led to important breakthroughs in general relativity:

The current efforts to understand gravity and universal gravitation both at the sub-atomic level and at the level of the universe have the positive backing today of many of America's outstanding physicists.

These include Dr. Edward Teller of the University of California, who received prime credit for developing the hydrogen bomb; Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton; Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, theoretical physicist at the Institute, and Dr. John A. Wheeler, professor of physics at Princeton University who made important contributions to America's first nuclear fission project. It must be stressed that scientists in this group approach the problem only from the standpoint of pure research. They refuse to predict exactly in what directions the search will lead or whether it will be successful beyond broadening human knowledge generally.

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Grover Loening, who was the first graduate in aeronautics in an American university and the first engineer hired by the Wright Brothers, holds similar views. Over a period of forty years, Mr. Loening has had a distinguished career as an aircraft designer and builder and recently was decorated by the United States Air Force for his work as a special scientific consultant. "I firmly believe that before long man will acquire the ability to build an electromagnetic contra-gravity mechanism that works," he says. "Much the same line of reasoning that enabled scientists to split up atomic structures also will enable them to learn the nature of gravitational attraction and ways to counter it." Right now there is considerable difference of opinion among those working to discover the secret of gravity and universal gravitation as to exactly how long the project will take. George S. Trimble, a brilliant young scientist who is head of the new advanced design division of Martin Aircraft in Baltimore and a member of the sub-committee on high-speed aerodynamics of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, believes that it could be done relatively quickly if sufficient resources and momentum were put behind the program. "I think we could do the job in about the time that it actually required to build the first atom bomb if enough trained scientific brainpower simultaneously began thinking about and working towards a solution," he said. "Actually, the biggest deterrent to scientific progress is a refusal of some people, including scientists, to believe that things which seem amazing can really happen... I know that if Washington decides that it is vital to our national survival to go where we want and do what we want without having to worry about gravity, we'd find the answer rapidly."

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May be why the others are interested in our nuclear installations..

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Based on the recent announcement declaring a partnership with TTSA, we know even the U.S. Army is also exploring similar concepts for next-generation ground vehicles that exploit the same principles the USAF has explored for decades: mass manipulation, electromagnetic metamaterial waveguides, and quantum physics.

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I am still trying to vet this, but here ya go:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqY7cbvP-yo

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BREAKING NEWS: “Tic Tac” UFO’s are Secret US Aircraft! 170 views 7 3 Share Save Report

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We reveal perhaps the greatest scientific discovery in human history which, up until now, has been kept secret. Former US Air Force Intelligence Specialist Mike Turber discloses that the “Tic Tac” shaped UFOs recently shown in videos released by the US Navy are in fact US Aircraft able to fly at speeds at least 10 times faster than anything achieved before because they have learned how to defeat gravity. Turber hints he has actually flown in one and states Trump flew one to North Korea to impress Kim Jong-un!

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The host of the show is a Fox News contributor:

https://www.foxnews.com/person/b/jim-breslo