re: Science confirms earthquake described by the Gospel of Matthew at the Crucifixion...

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How dumb are you and why did I have to read this dumb shite?

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And yet science has proven that modern civilization arose from the fertile crescent, which was documented to be the exact resting place of the Ark from the great flood, and in the same book as this earthquake was depicted at the Crucifixion

Its dumbshits like you that have the science right in front of you, and still make weak arse criticisms on the interwebz

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The Fertile Crescent is a crescent-shaped region in the Middle East, spanning modern-day Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria, together with northern Kuwait, south-eastern Turkey, and western Iran

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Where is Mount Ararat of Noahs Ark fame located?

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Mount Ararat, officially Mount Agri, is a snow- capped and dormant compound volcano in easternmost Turkey.

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The Fertile Crescent is the first region where settled farming emerged as people started the process of clearance and modification of natural vegetation to grow newly domesticated plants as crops. Early human civilizations flourished as a result. Technological advances in the region include the development of agriculture and the use of irrigation, of writing, the wheel, and glass, most emerging first in Mesopotamia.

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In evolutionary biology, punctuated equilibrium is a theory that proposes that once a species appears in the fossil record, the population will become stable, showing little evolutionary change for most of its geological history. When significant evolutionary change occurs, the theory proposes that it is generally restricted to rare and geologically rapid events of branching speciation called cladogenesis. Cladogenesis is the process by which a species splits into two distinct species, rather than one species gradually transforming into another.

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If Matthew said it happened, it happened.

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big Augustinian hypothesis proponent, are we?

modern Christian scholars pretty much all agree with the Marcan priority, making Mark, the 1st book written, thus more true to life than Matthew and Luke, who both drew upon the Q source

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modern Christian scholars pretty much all agree with the Marcan priority, making Mark, the 1st book written, thus more true to life than Matthew and Luke, who both drew upon the Q source

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There is no such thing as Q. It was a hypothesis postulated by a German historian in the 19th century to explain the synoptic problem. However, no such document has ever been found nor was any such document ever alluded to by early Christians in their writings. And while it is true that a majority of Christian scholars agree with the primacy of Mark, you are starting to see a shift back to Matthew because of the lack of evidence for Q.

I have been to Jerusalem. People don’t even know if Jesus was crucified in the area of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, or the Garden Tomb, or perhaps somewhere else. The Cenacle (Upper Room) is advertised as the location of the Last Supper, but the building it’s housed in was constructed at least 1,000 years after Jesus supposedly lived. Beneath the Cenacle is the purported Tomb of David, which most historians don’t actually consider to be the Tomb of David.

But yeah. Zero chance there might have been some bullshite back in the day in an area notorious for its religious zealotry.

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I’d be more inclined to believe it if it came from a more reputable source like BBC

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It's part of the religion. You have to have faith.

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RobbBobb

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Do you really want to debate this?

Do you absolve yourself from belief in DNA, genomes, RNA, protein folding, etc? Or do you wish to believe that all classes of animals and organisms were “started” in a discrete lineage and must remain in that lineage from the “beginning” to wherever this all ends?
Do you understand how silly that sounds to a logical person?

You do understand that there were many groups of related individuals and “societies” long before the “modern interpretation of civilization” arose in the Fertile Crescent, right?
There were Egyptians on the Nile who didn’t have to deal with unpredictable floods and famine like the Mesopotamians did….that forced the Sumerians to tame and control their surroundings, leading to modern civilization, in mud. Nothing spiritual, nothing magical…simple human ingenuity and imagination. Other societies were developing in parallel and were only slightly behind…

Is your claim that because there were real geographic locations in the Old or New Testament then by proxy it all must be true? How about Greek mythology based on real mountains and islands and even people? That’s been around much longer then Christianity.

I’m more than happy to debate you on this…and I’m supremely confident you are an idiot who simply regurgitates targeted excerpts from the internet to try and prove your worldview…a Bronze-Age religion amongst many others that happened to take advantage of the Roman adoption….why not be a Zoroastrian?

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Don’t you mean a series of books compiled into 1

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Technically I was speaking of the book of Matthew however, yes what you said.