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Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:41 pm to Corch Urban Myers
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:41 pm to bmy
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Tweets from the students in the class and videos taken kind of show the general idea of what happened
So you think you didn't have to be in the class to know what happened? Well, I guess you and LL part ways on that point.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:42 pm to Topwater Trout
Since when does a police officer need to respond to petty class room behavior issues. This is what happens when the duties of SRO are defined.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:42 pm to tylercsbn9
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Doesn't solve the current problem of a student disruption in the here and now.
She used her phone.
He told her to leave because of it.
She argued.
The cop was called.
Hell broke loose.
The disruption started when the teacher and the student went back and forth.. and continued from there. I am NOT saying he should't have asked her to leave several times. He absolutely should. But using the phone was not the 'disruption' here for other students. They may have noticed, but it was not interrupting class in some dramatic way unless the story suddenly changes that she was jammin to YouTube videos or something.
You can sacrifice 40 minutes of a student on their phone while you finish class and deal with them in a more serious manner later. I've seen many a teacher notice a student misbehaving, continuing with class, and then telling the student to stay after. From there, the student is severely punished.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:44 pm to TigahRag
I know. And I'm old and I have to go to bed.
Whenever she didn't acknowledge that she was doing what she hated in guys, by painting a group of people with a broad brush, I realized that she will never admit when she's misspoke. Which is a shame, because it doesn't make her a bad person. People always see it in others, but are blinded when they themselves do it. Acknowledging it is the first step in becoming a better person. We all have blind spots. But that damn pride.....
Whenever she didn't acknowledge that she was doing what she hated in guys, by painting a group of people with a broad brush, I realized that she will never admit when she's misspoke. Which is a shame, because it doesn't make her a bad person. People always see it in others, but are blinded when they themselves do it. Acknowledging it is the first step in becoming a better person. We all have blind spots. But that damn pride.....
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:44 pm to Festus
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I'm assuming you were in the class?
Unless the articles, tweets, and videos were all wrong, it has been established that she was using her phone in class and the issue was brought to everyone's attention once the teacher (rightfully) attempted to stop it.
Carolina lady can see that if she looks, you can see that if you look, I can see that if I look.
If it comes out that she was blasting Fetty Wap, that is much different.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:45 pm to LouisianaLady
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But using the phone was not the 'disruption' here for other students.
Openly breaking a rule in the middle of class is a disruption whether you want to believe it or not. Students that notice it will inevitably be distracted and watch the student to see if they are going to continue to use their phone and see if the teacher is going to do anything about it.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:45 pm to Topwater Trout
I think he had one or two complaints against him previously and I believe they were something along the lines of excessive force.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:46 pm to Festus
I'm keeping myself from making you cry ;) Go to bed, PawPaw.
I can't even remember because the story that came on after it just now was about another cop killing someone, and he had all kinds of previous issues. It all blurs together.
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I think he had one or two complaints against him previously and I believe they were something along the lines of excessive force.
I can't even remember because the story that came on after it just now was about another cop killing someone, and he had all kinds of previous issues. It all blurs together.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:46 pm to Topwater Trout
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Yeh I will get called a bootlicker by some idiots on here but I know I will never be a dumbass and let my emotions get the best of me when interacting with LEO. I consider that using common sense and good judgement not giving them an excuse to use excessive force/kill me
A larger percentage of black people are raised to not trust cops or respect their authority. It's going to be extremely difficult to solve the problem especially when we have race pimps and a president who fans the flames of racial discord. Groups like BLM also exacerbate this problem.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:46 pm to LouisianaLady
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She used her phone. He told her to leave because of it. She argued. The cop was called. Hell broke loose. The disruption started when the teacher and the student went back and forth.. and continued from there. I am NOT saying he should't have asked her to leave several times. He absolutely should. But using the phone was not the 'disruption' here for other students. They may have noticed, but it was not interrupting class in some dramatic way unless the story suddenly changes that she was jammin to YouTube videos or something. You can sacrifice 40 minutes of a student on their phone while you finish class and deal with them in a more serious manner later. I've seen many a teacher notice a student misbehaving, continuing with class, and then telling the student to stay after. From there, the student is severely punished.
This solution is one that falls on the teacher and not the officer. It's not a viable solution or option for the officer at the point of him being called in.
The officer was brought in to do one thing. Get the kid out of the room.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:48 pm to LouisianaLady
What example are you setting by allowing her to disrupt one class...doesn't that make it seem acceptable to the rest of the class?
What about the teacher...don't they have rules to follow? I would think a disruptive student is supposed to be removed from class to allow the teacher to keep teaching the other students. What if the teacher gets fired for not following those rules.
What about the teacher...don't they have rules to follow? I would think a disruptive student is supposed to be removed from class to allow the teacher to keep teaching the other students. What if the teacher gets fired for not following those rules.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:49 pm to Topwater Trout
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What example are you setting by allowing her to disrupt one class...doesn't that make it seem acceptable to the rest of the class?
Not if she isn't in school for the next week because there were consequences to her actions.
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What about the teacher...don't they have rules to follow? I would think a disruptive student is supposed to be removed from class to allow the teacher to keep teaching the other students. What if the teacher gets fired for not following those rules.
No idea what this school's protocol is.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:49 pm to scpirate
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I think he had one or two complaints against him previously and I believe they were something along the lines of excessive force.
He did. He should never have been placed in that particular position and perhaps should have, actually likely should have, been removed from law enforcement long before today.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:50 pm to LouisianaLady
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Unless the articles, tweets, and videos were all wrong, it has been established that she was using her phone in class and the issue was brought to everyone's attention once the teacher (rightfully) attempted to stop it.
So now you're saying YOU didn't have to be in the classroom to know what happened? But Carolina Lady did?
OK, don't make me cry. I'm going to bed. Night.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:50 pm to scpirate
Well if he was still on the job those complaints must have been investigated and found to be inaccurate right?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:51 pm to Festus
She implied that she knows top secret info we all don't know.
Did you miss that? How are you so lacking in comprehension when your son is so smart?
Did you miss that? How are you so lacking in comprehension when your son is so smart?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:51 pm to Topwater Trout
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Well if he was still on the job those complaints must have been investigated and found to be inaccurate right?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:53 pm to LouisianaLady
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No idea what this school's protocol is.
No idea either but the head of one of the major police groups was on NBC news saying that cell phone usage is not something that should have warranted a cop or SRO to be called to respond to the situation. And this was a cop defender.
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