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re: SB63 (St. George Parish-wide Vote Bill) LIVE STREAM Senate Committee

Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4471 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

What are the “sweeps”?


Sweeping tax money from the unincorporated areas of the parish into the city-parish general fund where it ends up being spent on city services.
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9439 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

The bill to allow the entire parish to vote on the new city died in committee. The bill to send the transitional district creation to the floor if the vote in October is successful passed.


Ooooh sounds like Colomb gonna need some Boudreaux's buttpaste.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103158 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:14 pm to
Not many. EBRP Public Works perhaps?

The area in question is already paying for parish services (EBRSO), private service (water), or self funded services (St George Fire Dept).
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:15 pm to
I like how the shitheads, including that peterson broad, thought the threat of STG having to fork over 100mil would kill it, put it to rest. Dude from STG group said, ok, done deal, literally like, need the check today,LOL
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

What are the “sweeps”?



Budget sweeps. They have been sweeping dollars from the unincorporated area onto projects in the city of BR for years. Incorporating St. George takes that ability away from them. It's been the prize for both sides of the debate, but the City has all but refused to acknowledge it.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4663 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:17 pm to
Yeah, they definitely thought they had a silver bullet with the pension issue.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

I like how the shitheads, including that peterson broad, thought the threat of STG having to fork over 100mil would kill it, put it to rest. Dude from STG group said, ok, done deal, literally like, need the check today,LOL


Which tells you whose budget numbers everyone truly believes.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4471 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

I don't think they realize how shallow a victory that amendment was for them. They tried to use it as a GOTCHA to kill the bill, but the proponents knew it was basically a nothingburger.


My only concern (and naturally none of us have read the amendment) was they way Carter spoke about “the city parish is not responsible for providing any services to the newly created city”. I know in reality that would never come to fruition if the residents of the city are paying parish taxes (which they will be). However, I can see it being used as a disinformation tactic to try and scare people against voting for St George. “If you vote for St George the Parish will no longer provide sewer service, etc.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Yeah, they definitely thought they had a silver bullet with the pension issue.



Meanwhile, the proponents are at the table like:

Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:19 pm to
Is that pootie tang?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467353 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I can see it being used as a disinformation tactic to try and scare people against voting for St George. “If you vote for St George the Parish will no longer provide sewer service, etc.

i think the fact that StG is more educated and has been very involved in this process, they're not going to fall for that
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4471 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

i think the fact that StG is more educated and has been very involved in this process, they're not going to fall for that



I think you are right. Just something that caught my ear.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

My only concern (and naturally none of us have read the amendment) was they way Carter spoke about “the city parish is not responsible for providing any services to the newly created city”. I know in reality that would never come to fruition if the residents of the city are paying parish taxes (which they will be). However, I can see it being used as a disinformation tactic to try and scare people against voting for St George. “If you vote for St George the Parish will no longer provide sewer service, etc.


They don't want to start breaking laws quite that blatantly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467353 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:21 pm to
so how long until they move for a St George school district?

I assume JBE losing would be a major step

do they wait a few years so that EBR settles down and people realize it's not the apocalypse?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Is that pootie tang?


4-3, they better sign their pity on the runny kine.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103158 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:22 pm to
It probably depends on the makeup of the state legislature.

The CBC will try and kill it purely out of spite.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4471 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

They don't want to start breaking laws quite that blatantly.


You sure about that?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

I assume JBE losing would be a major step


I don't think so. He hasn't exactly been eager to hitch his wagon to the New BR Fifedom.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41879 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:25 pm to
Everyone in the parish pays a two per cent sales tax. If you live inside a city in EBR, those revenues go up the respective city.

However, the two percent collected from unincorporated areas is swept into the general Fund and isn’t dedicated to unincorporated areas.

Now you understand why Broome and Holden are fighting so hard?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43182 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:25 pm to
It’s happening baws. A city of our own. The more they try to take it away the more I want it.
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