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Satellite data suggests coronavirus may have hit China earlier - likely started Fall 2019

Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:53 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:53 am
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Satellite data suggests coronavirus may have hit China earlier: Researchers

ABC News

Dramatic spikes in auto traffic around major hospitals in Wuhan last fall suggest the novel coronavirus may have been present and spreading through central China long before the outbreak was first reported to the world, according to a new Harvard Medical School study.

Using techniques similar to those employed by intelligence agencies, the research team behind the study analyzed commercial satellite imagery and "observed a dramatic increase in hospital traffic outside five major Wuhan hospitals beginning late summer and early fall 2019," according to Dr. John Brownstein, the Harvard Medical professor who led the research.

Brownstein, an ABC News contributor, said the traffic increase also "coincided with" elevated queries on a Chinese internet search for "certain symptoms that would later be determined as closely associated with the novel coronavirus."

Though Brownstein acknowledged the evidence is circumstantial, he said the study makes for an important new data point in the mystery of COVID-19's origins.

“Something was happening in October,” said Brownstein, the chief innovation officer at Boston Children’s Hospital and director of the medical center’s Computational Epidemiology Lab. “Clearly, there was some level of social disruption taking place well before what was previously identified as the start of the novel coronavirus pandemic.”


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Since the outbreak in China last year, the coronavirus has swept across the globe infecting nearly 7 million and killing more than 400,000 worldwide, according to a count by Johns Hopkins University. It is believed that the virus jumped from animal species, where it had little effect, to humans, where it has become the most potent natural killer since the Spanish flu pandemic a century ago.


China didn't tell the world that human to human transmission was occurring until after hundreds of thousands of tourists would disperse across the globe following the Chinese new years celebrations in late January.....giving the Chinese government enough time to hoard PPE and in some cases import PPE from Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Canada, and the USA. Months later, those countries would have massive outbreaks of their own and face PPE shortages.


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Starting with nearly 350 images captured by private satellites circling the globe, Brownstein’s study first examined traffic and parking outside major hospitals in Wuhan for the past two years. Among them were photographs snapped from space approximately every week or every other week through the fall of 2019. From the approximately 350 frames, researchers found 108 usable images, showing locations without obstruction from smog, tall buildings, clouds or other features that could complicate satellite analysis.



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Brownstein said he and his researchers found the hospital-traffic data to be even more compelling after digging into internet search patterns. Around the time the hospital traffic was surging, there was a spike in online traffic in the Wuhan region among users asking China’s Baidu search engine for information on “cough” and “diarrhea.”

“While queries of the respiratory symptom ‘cough’ show seasonal fluctuations coinciding with yearly influenza seasons, ‘diarrhea’ is a more COVID-19-specific symptom and only shows an association with the current epidemic,” according to the study. “The increase of both signals precede the documented start of the COVID-19 pandemic in December.”








It's sad that China is so dishonest that the global business community has to rely on satellite images to gauge everything from factory activity to truck traffic just to attempt to validate their bullshite accounting documents.

But now we have to do it to understand and predict pandemics because their government is so completely dishonest.

Here are the satellite images (some of them at least) in the linked article.



TLDR: China's dishonesty masked Coronavirus from researchers outside of their borders for months. There's now evidence of a spike in health care activity in the fall of 2019, with internet searches in China for things that happen to be symptoms of Covid-19 also spiking in the fall of last year

Had China been more open and honest, a lot of the human suffering and global economic upheaval could have been avoided.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 9:55 am
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:03 am to
Yeah, that’s not news. Pretty much everyone knows it started in October. I know tons of people that were sick as dogs from thanksgiving to Christmas that think they had it.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45576 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:05 am to
If you bought diarrhea in November you made out like a bandit.

Posted by tetracarbon
Member since Sep 2019
227 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:06 am to
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It's sad that China is so dishonest that the global business community has to rely on satellite images

China is an openly communist dictatorship with a history of human rights violations.

The use slave labor to make inexpensive garbage.

World politicians get rich off the backs of the people trapped under that regime.

And so we give them a pass and ignore every evil thing they do.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:49 am to
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Yeah, that’s not news. Pretty much everyone knows it started in October. I know tons of people that were sick as dogs from thanksgiving to Christmas that think they had it.



A lot of people suspect that Edward Aschoff (ESPN reporter, traveled a lot) may have died from it. He had underlying conditions that made it worse though.

That happened in December. At the time, no one really thought about Covid.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:50 am to
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And so we give them a pass and ignore every evil thing they do.



If they are going to be insular and dishonest about things like this, they should not have wholesale approval to trade broadly with the rest of the world.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79698 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:57 am to
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If you bought diarrhea in November you made out like a bandit.


I didn't know there was a market for that sort of thing.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:58 am to
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He had underlying conditions that made it worse though.


Yeah, like maybe undiagnosed stage 4 non-Hodgkin lymphoma.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 11:05 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79698 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:58 am to
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A lot of people suspect that Edward Aschoff (ESPN reporter, traveled a lot) may have died from it. He had underlying conditions that made it worse though.


He ended up having cancer or something.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35303 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:59 am to
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I didn't know there was a market for that sort of thing.



It's called "twitter" and "Facebook"
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:59 am to
diarrhea Is a symptom of COVID-19? Didn’t know that.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:11 am to
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I didn't know there was a market for that sort of thing.
You want diarrhea? I can get you diarrhea. There are ways, dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28294 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:19 am to
This chart is confusing as frick to me. Is the last number supposed to be may 2020?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:40 am to
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This chart is confusing as frick to me. Is the last number supposed to be may 2020?




Yes. ABC news made a mistake with the year on that chart. Last entry on the X axis should be May 2020.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42796 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:52 am to
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Edward Aschoff


That’s a name I haven’t heard of in a long time. Didn’t he have cancer and died of pneumonia?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:27 pm to
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China is an openly communist dictatorship with a history of human rights violations.


And they lied to the world one too many times. If we (the western world) don't make serious changes to our supply chains that eliminate or reduce the dependency on China, we have learned NOTHING from this pandemic.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4988 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:38 pm to
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you bought diarrhea in November you made out like a bandit.


Made a mint in diarrhea back in the 80s before the market got regulated like it is now.

Guy I know was in heavy, price tanked and he couldn't unload it. Had to take delivery of like 20 tons. Bad, bad news.
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