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re: Sally - Moving towards Georgia - Potential for Significant Flooding

Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
Speaking of the HWRF...

The 12z is ugly.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34067 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

DiamondDog


You sound like a piece of shite

What a shitty fricking thing to say.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41727 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by latxwoman
Member since Mar 2019
813 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

I have to go to Houston, leaving here Wednesday. I can't put this trip off. Last storm hit, I was suppose to be in Houston, but had to cancel that trip. It's very hard to get a doctors appointment were I have to go. Very little treatment for ALS here in Louisiana.

I do have a hotel room booked for two nights.


Best of luck to you. My stepdad had ALS and had the same problem-- he had to go to Houston to get a diagnosis. Docs in Lafayette kept telling him it was "nothing".
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
11599 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:24 pm to
And sure enough that’s a strong Cat 2 it’s projecting.

The absolute state of this year
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63547 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

It really is uncanny how well they've done this year in regards to intensity. Development and tracking has left a lot to be desired, but intensity has been spot on.


Uhhhhh
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:31 pm to
Well let's hope it's wrong this time...
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109365 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Why do you continue to make predictions in these threads? It’s well documented and every person here knows you have no clue what you are talking about.



It’s the stupidest shite known to man.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99872 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Speaking of the HWRF...

The 12z is ugly.






Sheeeeeit. This would be bad
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99872 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

They are saying a Tuesday landfall... not enough time to intensify. It may reach hurricane strength, but will not get to a cat 2. Even though the weather channel is hoping it will.....


Cat 4 incoming
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31242 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:35 pm to
We go from predicted highs in the 60s two weeks ago to another hurricane.

Seriously 2020. frick off
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99872 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

The HWRF has gotten very good at intensity.


This is not good news if you look at their latest run
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
4171 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:37 pm to
LINK

HMON is a little different
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99872 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:39 pm to
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And sure enough that’s a strong Cat 2 it’s projecting.


HWRF model is showing strong Cat 3.

953 is a solid 3.



Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23011 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:42 pm to
Here’s what jay grimes just posted:

quote:

TD #19 is moving into the southeast Gulf and becomes Sally later today. I won’t be surprised to see a modest shift in the center location but that is not especially important.

The environment over the eastern/southeastern Gulf is primed to support a storm. Surface water temperatures (SSTs) are in the mid to upper 80°s and the SSTs over the eastern Gulf are more than warm enough. Wind shear for the next couple of days looks to be rather light and there isn’t any significant “dry” air in the region. All these factors point to the intensification that the NHC expects, with TD #19 forecasted to become a hurricane by Monday.

I would not be surprised to see this system reach Category 1 sooner. And frankly, a more rapid intensification could lead to a more northerly track from Sunday into Tuesday, potentially taking SE Louisiana out of the landfall equation. But let's not count on that.

There is still quite a bit of uncertainty about the regional steering components as we go from Sunday into Monday.

Also note that the system's forward speed is expected to slow considerably from Sunday evening into Tuesday. That slowing is troublesome since slower storms are typically harder to forecast because of the lack of consistent, well-defined steering features.

For Louisiana and the central Gulf Coast, that slower approach can also mean bigger issues with surge.

For the Louisiana coast and tidal lakes, east-to-northeast winds will start to pile up the water well ahead of the storm: water levels are already starting to respond at several sites along the SE coast.

At this point, the thinking is that most of the state will avoid a hard hit. But don’t let your guard down.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41876 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:44 pm to
thanks for posting that
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28926 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43091 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:59 pm to
...DEPRESSION BECOMES A TROPICAL STORM...

2:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 12
Location: 25.6°N 81.6°W
Moving: W at 7 mph
Min pressure: 1004 mb
Max sustained: 40 mph
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:01 pm to
Model deep dive?

Probably time.

First question is early strengthening. You've heard stronger will tend north and that is true in the short run, but won't matter as much by Monday. Here's why...



See the lines dipping down over the Great Lakes and Ohio Valley? This trough (which would have been our cold front in a better world) will want to pull a stronger storm a little north. A stronger storm is taller and will feel the pull north more. It's weak and pulling away but there's a solid 24 hour window for a stronger storm to get a little shove north.

This would tend to have it end up farther east by landfall.

The problem is this window closes up by Monday.



Ridge builds in over the south by midday on Monday and this will push anything west. The storm will slow down also.



Then by Tuesday the ridge has re-oriented to the east of the storm and pushes it north and inland.

The question at play here is just how fast this thing gets to the west by early Monday. The HMON vs the HWRF show what those differences might mean.

The HWRF is faster.

Monday Morning:



vs the HMON

Midnight Tuesday Morning:



The HWRF ends up in Pontchartrain and the HMON goes Mobile Bay. Same response to the steering, different location due to how fast it moves early on.

Now for strength. Concern is definitely rising with that stronger HWRF run and the HMON showing a 2. Additionally the globals are trending stronger to support this idea. The why of it is simple, shear remains pretty low and the water is warm. Plus an upper high will be set up by Monday which would enhance outflow. Unfortunately this suggests potential strengthening into a landfall.





That's the state of play right now, concern for a stronger storm into the Cat 2 range is certainly here. Track with uncertainty remaining. One certainty is someone east of the track is going to get a tremendous amount of rain. Right now I'd put the likely landfall spots between Grand Isle and Fort Morgan. You know, roughly what the much better mets at the NHC are projecting.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146160 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:01 pm to
we have Sally

quote:

...DEPRESSION BECOMES A TROPICAL STORM...
2:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 12
Location: 25.6°N 81.6°W
Moving: W at 7 mph
Min pressure: 1004 mb
Max sustained: 40 mph
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