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re: Salesmen of the OT...regardless of industry, what has been your biggest success factor?
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:05 pm to contraryman
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:05 pm to contraryman
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Try not to refer to your clients as mother fu**ers is also important.
Well then lets use the name Steve as a generic placeholder for anyone you meet. Just stay organized and documents your touches. You get it
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:20 pm to sidewalkside
Do what you told the customer you were going to do.
Be on time. If you are gonna be late, phone them. They would much rather know that you are arriving late than know you are gonna be late and not letting them know.
If you do have to "change order," let the customer know and explain to them why you have to do the change order.
It's really simple. If you know you are qualified to do the work, just remember that you have to work around and usually with people.
Be on time. If you are gonna be late, phone them. They would much rather know that you are arriving late than know you are gonna be late and not letting them know.
If you do have to "change order," let the customer know and explain to them why you have to do the change order.
It's really simple. If you know you are qualified to do the work, just remember that you have to work around and usually with people.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:27 pm to sidewalkside
My philosophy:
If I can make a friend, I can make a sale.
Now, that includes: Showing up, asking about things my guys are working on to see if I could be of any help, etc, but it really boils down to actually caring about the guys I sell to. If you give a shite about the people you sell to, the rest falls into place pretty easily.
For reference, I sell stuff to plants all over the state.
If I can make a friend, I can make a sale.
Now, that includes: Showing up, asking about things my guys are working on to see if I could be of any help, etc, but it really boils down to actually caring about the guys I sell to. If you give a shite about the people you sell to, the rest falls into place pretty easily.
For reference, I sell stuff to plants all over the state.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:40 pm to sidewalkside
1. Learn your products well.
2. Listen to your customers and don't formulate answers in your head while someone is speaking about something that you need to be responsive to.
3. Ask for the order. Don't leave wiggle room or ambiguity in what you offer, but if the customer is telling you what they require in order to meet their needs, you go get a verbal commitment from them for the order if you can meet those requirements. Be closing by getting this verbal commitment. People who make a verbal commitment will by and large make good on that promise.
Then you make sure that your company does everything it can to get and keep that business. You make yourself and your company good business partners in the success of others or by exceeding expectations.
2. Listen to your customers and don't formulate answers in your head while someone is speaking about something that you need to be responsive to.
3. Ask for the order. Don't leave wiggle room or ambiguity in what you offer, but if the customer is telling you what they require in order to meet their needs, you go get a verbal commitment from them for the order if you can meet those requirements. Be closing by getting this verbal commitment. People who make a verbal commitment will by and large make good on that promise.
Then you make sure that your company does everything it can to get and keep that business. You make yourself and your company good business partners in the success of others or by exceeding expectations.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:07 pm to sidewalkside
A few random pointers from a 45-year career:
All customers have problems, so learn their business thoroughly, and help them solve their problems. You'll be a star.
Know your own product and your own company inside and out, top to bottom, start to finish, so you can help identify problems, and create opportunities to be useful and help solve them. Study everything until you know it cold. This won't happen overnight.
Don't be a pest, but stay in regular contact, and ALWAYS be there for them when they need you. When making a call, be on time and never overstay your welcome.
That said, the three most important things in sales are: follow-up, follow-up, and follow-up.
Customer service is everything. It will separate you from mediocre salespeople. So go the extra mile, and over-deliver.
ALWAYS KEEP YOUR WORD..!!
IF YOU EARN YOUR CUSTOMERS' TRUST, YOU WILL EARN THEIR RESPECT, AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES WILL FOLLOW.
NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE YOUR CUSTOMER LOOK GOOD.
Never, ever, lie or otherwise be dishonest. Don't make promises you cannot keep.
Never cover up. Own your mistakes.
ALWAYS treat anything your customer tells you as confidential. No exceptions.
Charge a fair price, but never gouge. Know your numbers thoroughly so you can give competitive pricing while maintaining your margin. Also so you will know when someone is being unreasonable when they beat you down on price. Respect is a two-way street.
Always be a professional. Be well groomed, nicely and appropriately dressed, and as fit as possible. Use no gratuitous profanity or any disrespectful or pejorative terms. Speak clearly using proper English and simple declarative sentences with no jargon or buzzwords. Wear nice shoes. If you must wear a fragrance, apply the minimum amount possible, using only your left hand. There is nothing worse than transferring bad cologne when shaking hands. Your car should be clean and well maintained. An older vehicle in perfectly maintained condition says more about you than the latest thing that you just went out and wrote a check for. Keep the 911 in the garage until the weekend.
As soon as you can afford it, buy a few custom shirts. A properly fitted collar, with a properly tied tie, is the picture frame for the face. The correct sleeve length, and a jacket (even an inexpensive one) that has been fitted, works wonders.
Never wear a flashy $20,000 wristwatch or gaudy jewelry. If you want to wear a Rolex, get a stainless Datejust, Explorer or Submariner depending if you are small, medium or large, and get the Oyster band and not the Jubilee. It's more substantial. And don't wear anything new; get one with some patina. You don't want to look like you just splurged with your last commission check, and the older watch will create the impression that you have been successful for a while. A Patek Aquanaut is $50K and no one will know what it is, unless they know, which can be very cool.
When taking your customer to lunch or dinner, drink strictly in moderation and only when you already have something in your stomach. Be unfailingly courteous to the wait staff, order modestly, and tip well but not excessively.
Treat your own staff with the same respect and courtesy. You will need them so you aren't wasting time in the office when you could be out talking to customers. Besides, it's the right thing to do. Regularly bringing a couple of dozen hot donuts or other treats to the office staff never hurts. Be equally kind to your client's office staff, and keep your eyes to yourself.
Never act inappropriately when entertaining a customer or client. The waitress you are hitting-on may be his neighbor's daughter. You never know. Even if not, it's bad form. And for God's sake, stay away from casinos, strip clubs, and anything after 10PM.
Have fun, all you want, but never do anything with a client he won't be able to tell everyone about (including his wife) the next day. Plus which, you never want to have anything held over your head in exchange for having to lower your price.
When entertaining, never talk business unless necessary, or planned. Get to know your customer, let them talk about their family, their history, their interests. Ask questions that get them talking about themselves. ONLY at the END of the lunch, dinner or event, do you bring up the follow-up, along the lines of, "Jim, it was great getting to know you. Thanks for such a nice time, and I'll call you on Monday about that thing".
You don't want it to be a chore for your customer to be around you, so above all, remember the golden rule.
You want to be conservative, dependable, solid, and authoritative. When people think of someone who embodies the best representation of your particular business or industry, you want them to think of you. This is the recipe for long-term success in any field.
Remember, it's the little things that tell you the big things about people, so pay attention to the little things, both across the table and on your side. This is not some boomer's take on what works in sales -- it's 100,000 years of human evolution in action. People can sniff-out a phony, a weasel, or a liar a mile away.
So, if you haven't figured out by now, sales isn't just about products and services, it's mainly about interpersonal relationships and creating a dynamic where people want to deal with you, and seek you out, because you are both pleasant to work with, and can help solve their problems and make their own lives easier and more profitable.
I hope this is helpful.
All customers have problems, so learn their business thoroughly, and help them solve their problems. You'll be a star.
Know your own product and your own company inside and out, top to bottom, start to finish, so you can help identify problems, and create opportunities to be useful and help solve them. Study everything until you know it cold. This won't happen overnight.
Don't be a pest, but stay in regular contact, and ALWAYS be there for them when they need you. When making a call, be on time and never overstay your welcome.
That said, the three most important things in sales are: follow-up, follow-up, and follow-up.
Customer service is everything. It will separate you from mediocre salespeople. So go the extra mile, and over-deliver.
ALWAYS KEEP YOUR WORD..!!
IF YOU EARN YOUR CUSTOMERS' TRUST, YOU WILL EARN THEIR RESPECT, AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES WILL FOLLOW.
NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE YOUR CUSTOMER LOOK GOOD.
Never, ever, lie or otherwise be dishonest. Don't make promises you cannot keep.
Never cover up. Own your mistakes.
ALWAYS treat anything your customer tells you as confidential. No exceptions.
Charge a fair price, but never gouge. Know your numbers thoroughly so you can give competitive pricing while maintaining your margin. Also so you will know when someone is being unreasonable when they beat you down on price. Respect is a two-way street.
Always be a professional. Be well groomed, nicely and appropriately dressed, and as fit as possible. Use no gratuitous profanity or any disrespectful or pejorative terms. Speak clearly using proper English and simple declarative sentences with no jargon or buzzwords. Wear nice shoes. If you must wear a fragrance, apply the minimum amount possible, using only your left hand. There is nothing worse than transferring bad cologne when shaking hands. Your car should be clean and well maintained. An older vehicle in perfectly maintained condition says more about you than the latest thing that you just went out and wrote a check for. Keep the 911 in the garage until the weekend.
As soon as you can afford it, buy a few custom shirts. A properly fitted collar, with a properly tied tie, is the picture frame for the face. The correct sleeve length, and a jacket (even an inexpensive one) that has been fitted, works wonders.
Never wear a flashy $20,000 wristwatch or gaudy jewelry. If you want to wear a Rolex, get a stainless Datejust, Explorer or Submariner depending if you are small, medium or large, and get the Oyster band and not the Jubilee. It's more substantial. And don't wear anything new; get one with some patina. You don't want to look like you just splurged with your last commission check, and the older watch will create the impression that you have been successful for a while. A Patek Aquanaut is $50K and no one will know what it is, unless they know, which can be very cool.
When taking your customer to lunch or dinner, drink strictly in moderation and only when you already have something in your stomach. Be unfailingly courteous to the wait staff, order modestly, and tip well but not excessively.
Treat your own staff with the same respect and courtesy. You will need them so you aren't wasting time in the office when you could be out talking to customers. Besides, it's the right thing to do. Regularly bringing a couple of dozen hot donuts or other treats to the office staff never hurts. Be equally kind to your client's office staff, and keep your eyes to yourself.
Never act inappropriately when entertaining a customer or client. The waitress you are hitting-on may be his neighbor's daughter. You never know. Even if not, it's bad form. And for God's sake, stay away from casinos, strip clubs, and anything after 10PM.
Have fun, all you want, but never do anything with a client he won't be able to tell everyone about (including his wife) the next day. Plus which, you never want to have anything held over your head in exchange for having to lower your price.
When entertaining, never talk business unless necessary, or planned. Get to know your customer, let them talk about their family, their history, their interests. Ask questions that get them talking about themselves. ONLY at the END of the lunch, dinner or event, do you bring up the follow-up, along the lines of, "Jim, it was great getting to know you. Thanks for such a nice time, and I'll call you on Monday about that thing".
You don't want it to be a chore for your customer to be around you, so above all, remember the golden rule.
You want to be conservative, dependable, solid, and authoritative. When people think of someone who embodies the best representation of your particular business or industry, you want them to think of you. This is the recipe for long-term success in any field.
Remember, it's the little things that tell you the big things about people, so pay attention to the little things, both across the table and on your side. This is not some boomer's take on what works in sales -- it's 100,000 years of human evolution in action. People can sniff-out a phony, a weasel, or a liar a mile away.
So, if you haven't figured out by now, sales isn't just about products and services, it's mainly about interpersonal relationships and creating a dynamic where people want to deal with you, and seek you out, because you are both pleasant to work with, and can help solve their problems and make their own lives easier and more profitable.
I hope this is helpful.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 5:41 pm to sidewalkside
Prospecting.
Qualifying.
Product knowledge of yours and theirs.
Hard work.
There are no substitutes.
Get off my retired lawn!
Qualifying.
Product knowledge of yours and theirs.
Hard work.
There are no substitutes.
Get off my retired lawn!
Posted on 8/27/25 at 5:58 pm to sidewalkside
I write copy…
Deliver the promise of the headline and write in a clear, concise and simple manner. I try to keep it on a 5th grade level… among other principles.
Deliver the promise of the headline and write in a clear, concise and simple manner. I try to keep it on a 5th grade level… among other principles.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:16 pm to Yaboylsu63
quote:
The donut and boudin sales people who think they can just take everyone fishing or golfing don’t go far
When I’m purchasing, I’m almost exclusively going with the boudin, doughnut, fishing, golfing guy… full stop Baw
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:31 pm to Yaboylsu63
quote:
The donut and boudin sales people who think they can just take everyone fishing or golfing don’t go far because that doesn’t separate you from the pack.
Easy now.......
You hook me up with that you don't even have to put prices on the quotes.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:12 am to The Pitts
quote:
If you must wear a fragrance, apply the minimum amount possible, using only your left hand. There is nothing worse than transferring bad cologne when shaking hands.
Deal killer. If that happened once (really, if they wore any noticeable scent), I'd avoid that salesman forever. Everyone in our office hates when any cologne wearing person visits and leaves their mark on the area.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:55 am to sidewalkside
Personal connection. Sales is about relating to people on a personal level, and developing and maintaining authentic personal relationships with people. Sales gurus love to overthink it, but that’s the real truth of the matter, and it has to be authentic and genuine or else it won’t last and you’re going to work really hard and struggle a lot.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:57 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:
Personal connection.
To me this is very important. Retired after 34 years in sales and getting to really know your customer is key.
In Alabama talk a little football, get customer to brag about his kids , then talk business.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:51 am to sidewalkside
In person meeting and follow up with emails. Do not be a pest.
Tell the truth, even if it may be perceived as negative. Doesn’t matter if quality, delivery, etc..
Clients don’t have to trust you to do business with you, However if you give them a reason not to trust you…. It is over.
Tell the truth, even if it may be perceived as negative. Doesn’t matter if quality, delivery, etc..
Clients don’t have to trust you to do business with you, However if you give them a reason not to trust you…. It is over.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:37 am to sidewalkside
My greatest success was achieved when I got out of sales.
The sales experience greatly helped me in work and life, but it was not the best actual career situation for me.
The sales experience greatly helped me in work and life, but it was not the best actual career situation for me.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 2:25 pm to sidewalkside
I make friends with my customers and truly understands their needs and wants. Then I work my arse off for them and make their life easy.
I blow out my quota every year
I blow out my quota every year
Posted on 8/28/25 at 2:29 pm to sidewalkside
I had the receptionist give a Code Blue over the intercom when certain sales reps were walking in. You could hear the doors shut almost in unison.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 3:01 pm to OlGrandad
quote:
In Alabama talk a little football, get customer to brag about his kids , then talk business.
Quoting you but could have quoted about half these posts.
This is why I hated sales and was never any good at it. I'm reading posts about "be genuine" "be yourself". The problem with this is I am genuinely only talking to this prospect because I'm trying to sell him something. That, at its base level, is phony as shite. What I quoted here is a perfect example. Talking football is just an ice breaker to get to the real point of the conversation, to sell something.
You don't really give a crap about the chit chat, or how their kids are doing, or anything else. You're there to sell.
I never could get past that part of sales because, frankly, I could not integrate that casual side with the business side. It just felt phony and I hated it.
That's fine, not everybody was meant to be in sales.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:43 pm to sidewalkside
Sales is not a subject that is taught in school. Therefore, I’ve read every book and/or listened to every audiobook I could in the subject and self taught myself many principles that have led to success.
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