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re: RUNNERS: 16 Year Old Teen Dies After First Half Marathon

Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Upperaltiger06
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:39 am to
Maybe you should consume fewer calories then?
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:40 am to
Anything less than a 5k and I don't feel like it's worth getting up for it 50% of the time unless it's a race or preceded by a swim + bike. 20min minimum.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:40 am to
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Maybe you should consume fewer calories then?



i like calories
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:40 am to
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Maybe you should consume fewer calories then?


ugh

I run long so I can eat and drink whatever I want
Posted by Seven Costanza
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:41 am to
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You read the article?


No, it asked me to log in. I don't seem to have access to it.
Posted by Seven Costanza
The Wild West
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:45 am to
I have to say. I love a good research article. I like seeing the raw data. I also enjoy reading a book that condenses multiple research articles. The problem is I read one book that says yada, yada, yada running is the best thing ever yada, yada, yada we were made to run long. Now, I am about to read a book that is saying running long is bad for you? It's so contradictory. I just don't know what to think anymore. Both of them present research, but they are saying the opposite thing. I am convinced genetics plays such a huge role in everything we do. How else could one group of scientist prove that something is good for you and another group prove the opposite? I just think it depends on the person.
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Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:49 am to
You've seen calorie restriction models in animals? Interesting results.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:51 am to
no, I generally just try to keep things simple and listen to my body when it comes to health

I know what is good to eat and what is bad, I just keep the bad in moderation

I know when my body is feeling good and when it is hurting, if it's feeling good, I'll run harder and longer, if it feels bad, I'll back off

It seems to be working so far
Posted by Seven Costanza
The Wild West
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:52 am to
Alright boys, I enjoyed this discussion, but I'm going to the gym. I have no idea what I'll there, though, because everything seems to have its pros and cons.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:54 am to
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Both of them present research, but they are saying the opposite thing. I am convinced genetics plays such a huge role in everything we do. How else could one group of scientist prove that something is good for you and another group prove the opposite?


The key is to having as much knowledge as possible and making your own decisions based on how your body responds. Some people can run for miles and miles and never have a negative consequence. If that is you and you like it, keep on keepin on. However, >95% of the population is not going to be able to handle that. Lets look at an opposite side of that coin. some people can smoke cigarettes their entire life and never develop lung cancer. Genetics is key to everything. But people look at these athletes and think they can look like them. No, you most likely can not look like them or do anything close to what they do.

Also, fat is an important tissue in the body and little to no fat is definitely not as healthy as some fat. However, too much fat is very bad. But back to genetics, some people are perfectly normal with barely any body fat and other are perfectly normal (as far as health metrics) with a good amount of fat. Do you know why humans have lived this long? Fat. It is so important, but people think that any fat on your body is bad. Sure I would prefer to frick the skinny chick with big tits at the bar, but that doesn't mean she is going to have a healthier life than the OT5 that I actually went home with.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:56 am to
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Maybe you should consume fewer calories then?


Counting calories is stupid. Count refined carbs instead. Keep that below 120 grams a day and your health will improve dramatically.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:00 pm to
Probably had some sort of heart defect or something. You'll be fine
Posted by Seven Costanza
The Wild West
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:01 pm to
Beautifully put
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:02 pm to
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quote: Body by science? yeah


Did you find it difficult to start sense gains are pretty slow?
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1344 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:19 pm to
Sounds like Rhabdomyolysis that lead into shock..
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Did you find it difficult to start sense gains are pretty slow?


Not at all. It was amazing how exhausted I was after on 12 minutes of lifting, and once I started watching my carb intake but still maintaining enough nutrients, I was losing fat and gaining strength every week. It got difficult when I plateaued because it's takes a while to know you have hit that wall and a little longer to figure out how to get over it since your workouts are at least a week apart (I tried going less than 7 days, and I started losing strength. Went up to 9 day intervals and got over the plateau). I find that doing a split routine after you have plateaued at the big 5 is perfect for being able to workout with shorter intervals
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:36 pm to
The SPORT of running isn't particularly healthy and neither is any other sport. So I don't know why people hold it to a different standard than football or any other sport. There are health benefits but it should also be understood that you will get hurt if you do it long enough or hard enough. Not sure why its so hard to grasp.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:54 pm to
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I find that doing a split routine after you have plateaued at the big 5 is perfect for being able to workout with shorter intervals


I've read up on the workout somewhat, but I should probably buy the book. At this point, I have only experimented with body weight workouts doing one slow rep to failure.

I watched some of the creators videos and he is shown doing a set of about 3 moderately slow reps for each exercise. Is this normal/better?
Posted by voinovich
Member since Nov 2013
42 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:57 pm to
16 years old is way too young to be running a half imo.

I like to think I take running seriously. But I didn't start doing that until mid to late 20's.

For example, I ran my first half at age 27 in 1:46. Ran one I hadn't trained for at age 30 in 2 hours. Ran one 2 weeks ago at age 35 in 1:31.

tl;dr though a heart issue was likely involved, 16 is way too
young to be attempting a 13 mile race. OP, assuming he/she is an adult, will be fine.
Posted by Warheel
Member since Aug 2011
2278 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:05 pm to
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no, I generally just try to keep things simple and listen to my body when it comes to health

I know what is good to eat and what is bad, I just keep the bad in moderation

I know when my body is feeling good and when it is hurting, if it's feeling good, I'll run harder and longer, if it feels bad, I'll back off

It seems to be working so far


Truth, although sometimes I don't keep the bad in moderation. When I don't, I feel like shite until I get everything back in line again. I try not to take any meds unless I absolutely have to otherwise I end up in more pain from overtraining.

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