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re: Rousey vs. Mayweather - who wins?

Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:34 pm to
Rousey would eat leather on her first wild dive in. Watch her fight, she is off balance and just swinging.

Mayweather would see her in basically slow motion. He would have time to decide which of her eyes to close. That last fight she had was one step up from a hair pulling at Wak Mart
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:38 pm to
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Rousey would eat leather on her first wild dive in.

"wild dive in" like it's not a calculated move.

one reason why BJJ is so effective against traditional fighting is that there isn't much to hit. shoulders. forehead. maybe graze an ear. maybe the top of the back. a big part of the theory is based around minimizing your risk and protecting yourself.

now FM has speed and reach and he could keep her at bay and use his jab to avoid takedowns. any mistake on her part = KO

any mistake on his part = submission, though

they'd both make lots of mistakes if you ran it out 1,000,000 times
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:38 pm to
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a seasoned HS wrestler who scraps at 135 destroys FM 99/100 times

*ETA: male
This is so fricking stupid One of my best friends was the state champ at 155 at I have seen him lose his fair share of fights to friday nigjt champs at reggies
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:39 pm
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:41 pm to
Lynx I think you fail to realize there just aren't that many good female MMA fighters out there. Most have no martial arts backgrounds and if they do they lack experience in the mma ring. Rousey' s dominance is great but the fighters she is fighting is really meh. Of course the UFC and Dana are gonna do all they can to make it look like Rousey' s opponents are legit though.
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:43 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:42 pm to
MMA is littered with wrestlers dominating. it's the discipline that has historically led to the quickest results. a lot of wrestlers in the early 00s had basically 0 training outside of wrestling, too. mark kerr dominated HW for a good while and his first fight was with 0 BJJ/striking training.

wrestlers are the best at cutting weight and have the muscle memory/strength that translates best to MMA-style fighting

RR is at a decisive physical disadvantage against FM in every physical attribute

FM is at a decisive physical disadvantage against a wrestler coming in at the same weight in areas that matter more in MMA
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:42 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:47 pm to
I don't give a shite about anything you just wrote. You said a High school wrestler destroys Floyd at 135 lbs 99/100 times. I am tellin you that you are full of shite. My best friends were all wrestlers and some were state champs. I saw them lose fights to frat stars I will text my boy and tell him you think he destroys Floyd
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:48 pm
Posted by C
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:50 pm to
High school wrestlers are not prepared for punches or how to make someone tap out. I'm a very good ex wrestler who transitioned to MMa in college. I wouldn't have stood a chance against a boxer. I'd walk right into a punch.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:51 pm to
Yeh he doesn't know what he is talking about. High school wrestlers lose fights to regular high school kids daily
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:52 pm to
I'm actually trying to picture going to Catholic high tomorrow morning and picking out their 135 lb wrestler and telling him he is fighting Floyd in 10 minutes He would shite his pants
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:55 pm to
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any mistake on his part = submission, though
Uh, no. And again, boxers knock each other out while wearing heavily-padded gloves. If Floyd gets to wear those thin MMA gloves, it's lights out inside of 10 seconds.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:55 pm to
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I am tellin you that you are full of shite. My best friends were all wrestlers and some were state champs. I saw them lose fights to frat stars


Damn, talk about a humbling experience.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:00 pm to
I mean it wasn't really humbling. They didn't think they were freak superstars like SFP apprantly thinks I'm honestly getting a kick out of picturing them fighting Floyd when we were 17
Posted by bhamtigerman
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:02 pm to
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Uh, no. And again, boxers knock each other out while wearing heavily-padded gloves. If Floyd gets to wear those thin MMA gloves, it's lights out inside of 10 seconds.


Boxer here. Have you ever been hit with boxing gloves before? That "padding" is to protect your fists, not the other person. Boxing gloves are leather on the outside and getting punched by a boxing glove hurts just as much as getting hit with a bare fist, if not more because you're getting hit with more surface area.

I read this whole thread waiting for somebody to call you out on that comment in the OP and I can't believe it hasn't happened yet, so here it is: You're an idiot.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:06 pm to
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I read this whole thread waiting for somebody to call you out on that comment in the OP and I can't believe it hasn't happened yet, so here it is: You're an idiot.
Plug a tampon in it, douchebag.

So is that why they outlawed bare knuckle boxing? So they could replace it with something worse? Right. Shut the frick up.
Posted by Solo
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:08 pm to
A high school wrestler is going to handle one of the greatest boxers in history, who happens to be a world class athlete, is the best defensive fighter ever, and has elite speed?

Maybe you should sit this one out.
Posted by bhamtigerman
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:15 pm to
Bare knuckles will tear your skin up more and get bloodier. Doesn't mean it hurts more. Gloves don't make the impact less powerful. Leather is just as hard as skin (because it is skin), you're just getting hit with a flat surface as opposed to the curves of the bones in your knuckles.

Bare knuckle fighters have shorter careers and less fights because their hands get broken into oblivion.

There's just as much padding in an MMA glove as there is a boxing glove, they just leave the fingers free to grip because that's part of the sport when you're on the ground grappling.

Know something about fighting before starting a thread if you're just going to get upset when you get called out
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:22 pm to
Well, the thread got anchored, so it doesn't matter anymore.
Posted by bhamtigerman
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:27 pm to
Either way, didn't intend to be hostile. Just pointing out that MMA gloves vs boxing gloves doesn't make a difference in the impact of the punch.

As a boxer, it's a slight pet peeve when people picture boxing gloves like some big soft cartoon caricature that doesn't hurt.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:36 pm to
You actually seemed kind of hostile. It was just supposed to be a goofy thread, but I guess the thread police put the kibosh on it.

I never said they didn't hurt, but I do remember reading that John L. Sullivan was one of the earliest glove advocates because people were getting killed in the ring, not because their hands were getting messed up.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:56 pm to
I am honestly amazed at how stupid SFPs stance in this thread is. Trolls are not even this dumb.
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