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re: Ross Harris found guilty on all 8 counts in the death of his kid.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:03 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:03 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
For some reason, I followed this trial from the day it happened a little over 2 years ago. I even watched almost all of the testimony over the past month. After seeing and hearing what I have, I would not have found him guilty of malice murder. However, felony murder was almost a given because he was sexting underage girls on his way to work on the day he left his son in the car. In Georgia, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, you are guilty of felony murder.
The prosecutions entire case hinged on the fact that he is quite possibly the most unlikeable a-hole to have ever lived. As some others said, most of the "bombshell" headlines to come out of this trial were proven to be false. The detectives leaked exaggerated details in the days following the incident that were dishonest at best.
At the end of the day, there wasn't any evidence that he knew his son was in the car, but that's also something that really can't be proven either way.
The prosecutions entire case hinged on the fact that he is quite possibly the most unlikeable a-hole to have ever lived. As some others said, most of the "bombshell" headlines to come out of this trial were proven to be false. The detectives leaked exaggerated details in the days following the incident that were dishonest at best.
At the end of the day, there wasn't any evidence that he knew his son was in the car, but that's also something that really can't be proven either way.
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:09 pm to CaptSpaulding
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At the end of the day, there wasn't any evidence that he knew his son was in the car, but that's also something that really can't be proven either way.
I know where his work is. I also know how close the Chick-Fil-A is to his work. I've driven past both many times. He had breakfast with his son a three or four minute drive from his work. They're less than a mile from each other. A toddler that age doesn't stop talking after eating. If you have had a toddler, you know that. He knew the kid was in there.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:15 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
If for some crazy reason I did this to my daughter i would probably just kill myself on the spot as i wouldn't be able to live with myself.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:21 pm to sicboy
Man, frick this fricking thread. Makes me angry and sick. I'm out.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:28 pm to dmjones
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If you have had a toddler, you know that. He knew the kid was in there.
That very well may be the case. I'm just saying that the prosecution didn't do anything to prove that. There is a lot of room for reasonable doubt when your argument is "come on, his could he have not known?"
Like I said, the dude is a huge scumbag on more levels than I can count. He's most definitely guilty of enough counts to put him away for life either way, but I don't understand the logic of a malice murder conviction based on the evidence that was presented.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:28 pm to sicboy
quote:damn
Investigators found Harris made online searches in the days before Cooper's death related directly to babies in hot cars, and one search for "how to survive prison."
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:31 pm to CaptSpaulding
I would vote guilty. The chance of his internet searches and the events coming so close temporaly would leave me no choice but to vote guilty.
His "habits" are evidence of motive. His searches are evidence of intent........ Guilty.
His "habits" are evidence of motive. His searches are evidence of intent........ Guilty.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:31 pm to CaptSpaulding
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That very well may be the case. I'm just saying that the prosecution didn't do anything to prove that. There is a lot of room for reasonable doubt when your argument is "come on, his could he have not known?"
Like I said, the dude is a huge scumbag on more levels than I can count. He's most definitely guilty of enough counts to put him away for life either way, but I don't understand the logic of a malice murder conviction based on the evidence that was presented.
You'd have to ask the jury about that. Two of the jurors were decidedly pro-defense. The lead prosecutor in the case, Chuck Boring, is one of the best Assistant District Attorneys in the state. He teaches seminars to other state prosecutors. The defense attorney is a long winded hack who was trying to use double-speak to win the case.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:33 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
The internet searches
This didn't happen
This didn't happen
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:33 pm to sicboy
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It can and could happen to anyone. I'd beg any parent to not get too high and mighty thinking they could never make a mistake.
It happened to a friend of mine. By the time he remembered and went and rushed his some to the hospital, permanent damage had been done. Tragic.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:34 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Prosecutors argued Harris must have known Cooper was in the car. He drove less than two minutes to work after strapping the child into his car seat when they finished breakfast at a Chick-fil-A restaurant just over a half-mile from Harris' office. Parking lot surveillance video showed Harris also went to his car after lunch and tossed in some light bulbs he had purchased, though he never got inside.
He also got in his car after work and drove several miles before "realizing" the child was in the car.
Seasoned detectives investigating the situation threw up from the smell in the car. They questioned how the father could have driven so far and not know there was a problem.
They started building a case against the father on-site.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:35 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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I would vote guilty. The chance of his internet searches and the events coming so close temporaly would leave me no choice but to vote guilty.
Not to mention that while other people were trying to resuscitate his child, all he could think about was his phone. Never asked about Cooper. When his wife came, all he did was while about the living conditions that he would have to endure. Wanted fame as an advocate for hot car deaths almost immediately.
Kid's head was inches from his in a car seat far too small for him, strapped in far more tightly than would have been comfortable. Came back to the car during lunch to "throw" light bulbs in the car and didn't notice shite. Nothing amiss there at all.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:35 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Once again, those internet searches about kids in a hot car are NOT true.
I think this dude is a POS but that never happened and it is a joke the prosecution let that leak. He may appeal bc of it.
I think this dude is a POS but that never happened and it is a joke the prosecution let that leak. He may appeal bc of it.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:36 pm to Winston Cup
Either he is a psychopath or has some terrible bad brain and is paying for it 10 fold.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:37 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Good. frick that guy. His poor child did not deserve that. He could have just walked away. Hope he lives a long and miserable existence.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:37 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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GeauxTigerTM
Congrats on doubling down. it happens to good people quite often.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:37 pm to NoHoTiger
He will become BIG Bubbas girl.... you know what I mean.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:39 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
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Seasoned detectives investigating the situation threw up from the smell in the car. They questioned how the father could have driven so far and not know there was a problem.
They started building a case against the father on-site.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:44 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
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Seasoned detectives investigating the situation threw up from the smell in the car
From my understanding, this didn't happen either. What the detective said was the car "smelled like death." An expert witness testified that there wasn't enough time for decomposition to begin, so those smells wouldn't have been present.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:49 pm to CaptSpaulding
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From my understanding, this didn't happen either. What the detective said was the car "smelled like death." An expert witness testified that there wasn't enough time for decomposition to begin, so those smells wouldn't have been present.
During the trial it was revealed that the car smelled like diaper. That should have been a tip-off that his toddler son was still in the car. Toddlers have pretty regular bowel movements and such. Especially a child that is almost two years old.
Though, technically, it would smell like death minus decomposition since when someone dies their bowels and bladder relax and release their contents.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 4:53 pm
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