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re: Ron Paul Blocked from Facebook After Writing Column About the Pitfalls of Censorship
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:32 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:32 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Libs: "Facebook is a private company. Stop your whining".
Libs: "Chick Fil A must be stopped".
Libs: Also ignore the domestic terrorist we motivated to attack Chick Fil A corporate; ignore the one we motivated to shoot at congressional Republicans practicing for softball game; ignore our past challenge of elections certifications; ignore our antifada BrownShirts rioting, committing violence, bullying, killing, and also glorying it on our social media and then rinse & repeat for blm; ignore our past propaganda that it was the Christian “Taliban” Right that wanted to dictate to everyone how to think and live and censor anyone else;
hell pretty much ignore everything we have said and done in past and are currently doing and fall in line or else.
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:00 am to goofball
What reasonable obligation does Facebook or twitter have to free speech? I don’t think much.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:13 am to Misnomer
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What can we do?
Nothing. The majority of the country now agrees with it.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:28 am to Landmass
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The real question is why anyone that sees this as unacceptable is still using Facebook or Twitter
Never had Twitter and dumped Facebook. I'll never go back.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:33 am to Centinel
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What can we do?
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Nothing. The majority of the country now agrees with it.
Wrong. The majority of the country thinks they agree with it.
The real world implications of what they are currently supporting is so far beyond them that they have no way of grasping the potential ramifications of what is going on.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:40 am to TexasTiger1185
What reasonable obligation does Facebook or twitter have to free speech?
---Congress made a law in the 90s allowing social media to self-regulate; i.e, without government oversight. The idea was that these would be open platforms of expression. Section 230
Now that Twitter and Facebook are deciding what speech is allowed, even the ACLU has warned they have stepped too far.
I don't think much
--That is obvious
---Congress made a law in the 90s allowing social media to self-regulate; i.e, without government oversight. The idea was that these would be open platforms of expression. Section 230
Now that Twitter and Facebook are deciding what speech is allowed, even the ACLU has warned they have stepped too far.
I don't think much
--That is obvious
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:49 am to RedPop4
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RedPop4
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F_ _ _ T_ _ _ S _ _ _ _ C _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ r
Baw, there is no room for the weak-spirited in this new world we find ourselves in. So, say it loud and with conviction, or don't say it at all. Whispers won't win this fight.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:54 am to LegendInMyMind
Joke, brother, a joke. A different way of putting it to garner a laugh and a reply.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:55 am to RedPop4
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Joke, brother, a joke. A different way of putting it to garner a laugh and a reply.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:25 pm to brass2mouth
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The country doesn’t want to. It’s easier to just ignore it and live your life with your head in the sand.
And one day there will be no sand...i.e...there will be no place to hide !
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:31 pm to LSUsmartass
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But please by all means, everybody continue posting your morning yoga pose pictures and what new whacky coffee flavor everyone in the office is trying
I wish people self censored more posting those than politics
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:34 pm to TexasTiger1185
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What reasonable obligation does Facebook or twitter have to free speech? I don’t think much.
I think what they are doing goes beyond policing speech on their site and into hardcore viewpoint discrimination.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:35 pm to TexasTiger1185
quote:To the law, none.
What reasonable obligation does Facebook or twitter have to free speech? I don’t think much.
To the concept, technically none.
However, the internet has become the modern town hall. The majority of information is being exchanged via the internet. We're at a point where the modern town hall is effectively controlled by a select few, and that is in itself a tremendous problem.
Realistically, section 230 needs an amendment to give it teeth and force platforms to behave as platforms, or act as publishers and deal with the consequences that come with that. It's an issue where social media in particular is trying to have its cake and eat it too.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 6:25 pm to Kodar
Posted on 1/12/21 at 8:37 pm to dewster
This
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:06 pm to TheOcean
Delete facebook and use MeWe
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:23 pm to Kodar
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However, the internet has become the modern town hall. The majority of information is being exchanged via the internet. We're at a point where the modern town hall is effectively controlled by a select few, and that is in itself a tremendous problem.
Realistically, section 230 needs an amendment to give it teeth and force platforms to behave as platforms, or act as publishers and deal with the consequences that come with that. It's an issue where social media in particular is trying to have its cake and eat it too.
I agree with your sentiment I would somewhat tweak your execution. Article 230 needs to stay in place, if it's ever struck down all social media platforms will shut down the next day. There is precedent for this, once laws were enacted to hold Craig's List accountable for prostitution and trafficking post the personal section was immediately removed. Once the same happened to Back Page it shutdown immediately. When Gawker, a publisher, posted a Hulk Hogan sextape a wealthy backer who didn't like Gawker funded his lawsuit and Gawker was bankrupted. If you want Tiger Droppings to go away, end article 230. It shows how Trump doesn't understand most of what he says. What you really want is for ISPs and these social media platforms to be declared a communications utility and fall under Title II of the 1934 Communications Act. That will allow the FCC to regulate these platforms and have a say in their ToS. If those ToS are violated then the FCC can step in for action and fines. The problem to some extent is Republicans (because of big business) don't want ISPs and these platforms to fall under Title II, see the general sentiment of free market from Republicans. ISPs were under Title II until Trump. The current issue at hand of so many accounts being shutdown probably wouldn't be remedied as they are being shutdown under the belief that these accounts have or will incite violence which isn't protected under free speech. Given the plan to kidnap the Michigan governor in order to execute, the attempt to run the Biden/Harris bus off the road in Texas and the obvious storming of the Capitol these platforms would have a good argument for account removal. At the Capitol the back the blue crowd killed two police officers I doubt they were going to get to AOC or Pelosi and hug it out. I don't see way you can argue not to at minimum suspend these accounts. For the, I should be able to post whatever I want crowd, imagine if you will a video of someone you hold near and dear being horribly killed, tortured, raped, and having no avenue to have it removed. There must be guidelines and ToS it's just a question of who gets to make those rules, companies or the government.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:35 pm to goofball
Still amazed at the systematic take down of Parler. I noticed Apple likes to pick on small guys including states while doing business with countries that do what would have to be even far worse in their minds than pass bathroom and religious freedom bills or not remove posts they disagree with or ones pushing violence fast enough.
All are still using that they didn’t do enough to remove posts in relation to capital. I wonder what kind of stances Apple takes with China and it’s interment camps and Hong Kong crackdowns and great firewall of China not to mention countries they do business in where homosexuality is illegal. TikTok has censored posts from direction of China’s govt and share info with govt. Govt hackers put code in apps sold in China’s App Store to spy and track on Muslims in China. Yet Cook continues to kiss their arse figuratively and probably literally.
Twitter leaves up much more crap all the time but it’s from the left. Facebook as well, and Facebook has circumvented Apple developer rules in past as has Google.
We all know it’s mainly because Trump was still allowed a Parler account.
All are still using that they didn’t do enough to remove posts in relation to capital. I wonder what kind of stances Apple takes with China and it’s interment camps and Hong Kong crackdowns and great firewall of China not to mention countries they do business in where homosexuality is illegal. TikTok has censored posts from direction of China’s govt and share info with govt. Govt hackers put code in apps sold in China’s App Store to spy and track on Muslims in China. Yet Cook continues to kiss their arse figuratively and probably literally.
Twitter leaves up much more crap all the time but it’s from the left. Facebook as well, and Facebook has circumvented Apple developer rules in past as has Google.
We all know it’s mainly because Trump was still allowed a Parler account.
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When asked by Reuters on Wednesday when users might expect the site to return to operation, Matze responded, "It could be never. We don't know yet."
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Beyond being removed from AWS's hosting service and removed from the Apple and Google Play stores, Matze revealed that Parler has seen their contracts with numerous other essential providers terminated in the wake of the violent demonstrations in Washington, D.C., on January 6th. According to Matze, Parler can no longer process payments with Stripe or American Express, has had its Scylla Enterprise database taken offline, and has even had its employees and volunteers kicked off Slack, preventing them from communicating with each other.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:37 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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"Facebook is a private company. Stop your whining".
I agree with this..
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"Chick Fil A must be stopped".
WTF would anyone want to stop Chick Fil A? I had their mac and cheese for the first time the other day.. Not bad.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:39 pm to OweO
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WTF would anyone want to stop Chick Fil A?
The same reason progressives want to stop anyone. They aren't progressive.
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