re: Rolex Submariner or Omega Seamaster?

So are SIekos

Alpha, go Rolex. Beta, go Omega.

These are really not evens comparable. Like comparing a Volkswagen to a Ferrari.

Most people dont even notice a stainless or white gold rolex

To answer the OP, I'd take the sub

Both have great movement, I can’t get my money back on omegas so I stick with Rolex. Just got a white faced Daytona Friday, cost 12,400 from the AD and brings 20,000 on the grey market.

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So are SIekos

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There is no question Seiko makes a great watch and some of the most iconic dive watches are Seikos. The Grand Seikos are an excellent alternative to mid-level Swiss watches like Rolex. Of the few divers I see that wear an analog watch as a backup 75% of them are Seikos and another 20% are Citizens.

My point was not that Seiko doesn't make a good watch but that Rolex doesn't need to be handled with velvet gloves.

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Should these watches be stored unwound or wound occasionally. I really don't know the last time they were cleaned and oiled and I am hesitant to wind them without that knowledge.
Also, is there a particular way these should be stored, flat or upright? Does it make a difference?

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For an old watch without a recent service history, I would leave it as it sits, wound or unwound and would not run it until it is serviced. This might be a rather conservative approach but without lubrication (which dries out, especially older oils, the newer ones last longer and stay dispersed better) the bearings surfaces of the jewels can take a beating in short order. When you really want to wear them just get them serviced and you know you are not doing damage. Dial up/dial down etc makes no difference in storing a watch whether it is running or not. It will impact the accuracy of the watch due to positional variances, some movements display more positional variance than others. Some people that take their watches off at night learn which position to leave it in overnight that helps balance the tendency of the particular movement to gain or lose time during the day. This is useful for people that wear the same watch everyday or for extended periods at a time.

I am enjoying your posts.

Do you use a winder for your automatics?

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I am enjoying your posts.

Do you use a winder for your automatics?

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No. They all stay in the cases just like in the picture. As I mentioned I let the ones that don't hack wind down and pull the stems to stop the ones that hack. Then each day I switch to a new watch and set it along with winding if necessary. Its the way I spend some time with my hobby each day even if I have no time. I only wear an individual watch about 1 day every 2 months and even though sitting idle doesn't mean they don't have to be serviced I feel comfortable extending the service periods by quite a bit. About once a year I sit down an put them all on my Timegrapher and record their performance, which it is by no means foolproof that along with the time since the last service keeps me safe. I used to flip newer watches before they needed service but now I am more or less out of the game and just enjoy what I have. I have to avoid watch forums and keeping up with the new releases and this is why I tend to go nuts on OT watch threads, it is pent-up watch posting.

The sub has class, and is very graceful.

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Rolex says to others that you are tacky and don't know any better.

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People who get into watches and stay for a while often go through the three stages of Rolex. While not universal I have seen it enough to know it is the norm. While he did not formulate the stages Jack Forster is probably the best wordsmith/watch nerd to tackle it in print.

I hate Forbes links but here goes:

The Rolex problem

Rolex makes a REALLY good watch as good as most any of the mid-tier watches. They are highly vertically integrated, more so than any other watch company save Seiko (they make the ink they print their manuals with). They are priced at a premium compared with most watches of similar quality but they hold value and are easy to find local service for them. A lot of people that know little about watches buy Rolex but even without actual watch knowledge, they made a good purchase, well at least in the Veblen goods world of mechanical watches.

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The sort of thing some son of a Saudi sheik

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If you find one of these lemme know, I'll take it off your hands