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re: Road Construction @ Jefferson & Government

Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Crucial Taunt
Member since Nov 2016
275 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:55 pm to
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The goal was to make Govt. St a pedestrian friendly shopping area. This has been 15 years or more in the making and was modeled around trying to make it like Magazine in NO. The whole point was to make it inconvenient for you to use it as a thoroughfare to and from downtown. The Mid City Redevelopment Alliance and the Mid City Merchant's Association only want you there if you are visiting the local businesses.


And I’m perfectly ok with that. There a very few streets in the city of BR that operate like city streets should. Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2831 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

And I’m perfectly ok with that. There a very few streets in the city of BR that operate like city streets should. Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic


I agree. Govt Street was never a good candidate to be 4 lanes. It was a bad decision back in the day to make it 4 lanes.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11199 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

I always hated all the dips, potholes, and shitty pavement, but somehow, in repaving it, they kept the giant weird dips and craters between Eugene and the railroad tracks.


I heard, but can't confirm, they have to redo nearly 50% of the work they just did due to the screw ups
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted by TigerNOLAGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
719 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:01 pm to
Mayor Bloomdoggle's plan for a "green" Govt street & also bike lanes IIRC.
You can probably find it on city website.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35991 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:02 pm to
quote:


And I’m perfectly ok with that. There a very few streets in the city of BR that operate like city streets should. Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic


Some traffic counts on mid town E/S corridor streets from DOTD

North St ( not N Blvd)just Westt of Foster- 7,808

US 190 Florida in 2017(most recent survey listed)
East of S Foster 46,210- six lane
West of S Foster 20,672- four lane

La 73 Government and Jefferson Hwy.
West of Eugene-14,492
East of Eugene-10,924
West of S Foster- 14,253
East of S Foster- 19,656
Jeff at Claycut-14,972
Jeff just before Lobdell- 32,927
Jeff Just before Corporate 38,500

EBR engineering traffic counts(most recent)
N Blvd, Foster to Acadian
Both directions year 2011 7,784
East bound year 2010 5,253
West bound year 2004 4,133

Claycut- Foster to Jefferson both ways- year 2014 7,006
Goodwood- Lobdell to Jeff both ways-year 2014 5,273

This is a snapshot of what was going on prior to the road diet.

This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67061 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:05 pm to
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North St ( not N Blvd)just East of Foster- 7,808


This is a misleading one. North St east of foster basically dead ends in a residential neighborhood east of foster. Only west of foster does it connect to anything.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11799 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:06 pm to
i drove from jefferson to government today and turned on government....

they are taking up a lane all along government with a "median" near intersections.....
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35991 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:09 pm to
quote:


I agree. Govt Street was never a good candidate to be 4 lanes. It was a bad decision back in the day to make it 4 lanes.


Wrong
Government Street or La 73 was part of the state highway system.
Parts of Government East of 110 handled over 24,000 cars per day.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35991 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:09 pm to
quote:


This is a misleading one. North St east of foster basically dead ends in a residential neighborhood east of foster. Only west of foster does it connect to anything.

My error I’ll correct
Thxs
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2831 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:21 pm to
It was a bad decision bc the setbacks on a majority of the buildings on the stretch between 110 and Jefferson were not far enough away from the hwy. They had the same problem on Starring, and had to drop the speed limit.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26154 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

But you people would rather get on here and bitch about progress


Why is having to drive somewhere that is not my destination, and needing to rent a bike on which I then have to travel to my destination necessarily considered progress?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26154 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:32 pm to
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BUT, you have idiots that are in the right land and TURNING LEFT!


That's because both lanes used to turn left until the right-turning yield was idiotically removed. I see people constantly stuck in that lane or making last minute changes because they are used to the old double left turn setup.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26154 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:38 pm to
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This has been 15 years or more in the making and was modeled around trying to make it like Magazine in NO. The whole point was to make it inconvenient for you to use it as a thoroughfare to and from downtown. The Mid City Redevelopment Alliance and the Mid City Merchant's Association only want you there if you are visiting the local businesses.



The problem with that is there are not exactly a wealth of more direct/better connections to and from downtown. Is everyone supposed to go all the way to Florida? Its not like North Blvd is capable of handling the traffic that government street did pre-construction.

I don't hate the idea of making Government street more pedestrian friendly, etc. However, I am not sure this was the way to implement those changes whenever it is clearly, far and away the most direct and efficient way to get downtown without having to go all the way to I-10 or Florida.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35991 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:47 pm to
quote:


It was a bad decision bc the setbacks on a majority of the buildings on the stretch between 110 and Jefferson were not far enough away from the hwy. They had the same problem on Starring, and had to drop the speed limit.


The problem was there were no alternatives. 73 was a state highway. The demand was there. They couldn’t reroute 73 to N Blvd. somehow. There was no Corporate Blvd then. The situation wasn’t ideal, but they had no choice.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

t will become impassable and businesses along its route not killed by the years of construction will be starved by reduced vehicle traffic as people avoid the area like the plague due to the buses clogging up the travel lanes stopping for 2 minutes every 100 feet.


From Acadian to Jefferson it’s already 1 lane each way due to them constructing what will be the eventual intermittent medians and traffic flows fine.

I don’t buy that pedestrian traffic will significantly increase, but businesses will be fine.

If this even marginally increases gentrification it’ll be a win.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67061 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:02 pm to
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From Acadian to Jefferson it’s already 1 lane each way due to them constructing what will be the eventual intermittent medians and traffic flows fine.


It’s fine now because the busses aren’t running. The busses are the main problem.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9585 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The problem with that is there are not exactly a wealth of more direct/better connections to and from downtown. Is everyone supposed to go all the way to Florida? Its not like North Blvd is capable of handling the traffic that government street did pre-construction.
Gov st will still be 4 lanes west of 110. Depending on where you’re going north blvd is better connection to downtown right now.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2332 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:22 pm to
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Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic


I can't remember the last time I didn't use North Boulevard when needing to go from Jefferson/Government to downtown. It is 4 lanes with less lights, less left turners and less congestion than Government. Thru traffic will learn to use it once the 3 lane section of Government is complete.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67061 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:23 pm to
My issue with North is the lights are often poorly timed between Peachtree st and I-110. There’s fewer lights on North, but I typically have to stop at every single one of them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35991 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:46 pm to
quote:


My issue with North is the lights are often poorly timed between Peachtree st and I-110. There’s fewer lights on North, but I typically have to stop at every single one of them.


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