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re: Road Construction @ Jefferson & Government
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:55 pm to td1
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:55 pm to td1
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The goal was to make Govt. St a pedestrian friendly shopping area. This has been 15 years or more in the making and was modeled around trying to make it like Magazine in NO. The whole point was to make it inconvenient for you to use it as a thoroughfare to and from downtown. The Mid City Redevelopment Alliance and the Mid City Merchant's Association only want you there if you are visiting the local businesses.
And I’m perfectly ok with that. There a very few streets in the city of BR that operate like city streets should. Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:48 pm to Crucial Taunt
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And I’m perfectly ok with that. There a very few streets in the city of BR that operate like city streets should. Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic
I agree. Govt Street was never a good candidate to be 4 lanes. It was a bad decision back in the day to make it 4 lanes.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:51 pm to kingbob
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I always hated all the dips, potholes, and shitty pavement, but somehow, in repaving it, they kept the giant weird dips and craters between Eugene and the railroad tracks.
I heard, but can't confirm, they have to redo nearly 50% of the work they just did due to the screw ups
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:01 pm to J Murdah
Mayor Bloomdoggle's plan for a "green" Govt street & also bike lanes IIRC.
You can probably find it on city website.
You can probably find it on city website.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:02 pm to Crucial Taunt
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And I’m perfectly ok with that. There a very few streets in the city of BR that operate like city streets should. Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic
Some traffic counts on mid town E/S corridor streets from DOTD
North St ( not N Blvd)just Westt of Foster- 7,808
US 190 Florida in 2017(most recent survey listed)
East of S Foster 46,210- six lane
West of S Foster 20,672- four lane
La 73 Government and Jefferson Hwy.
West of Eugene-14,492
East of Eugene-10,924
West of S Foster- 14,253
East of S Foster- 19,656
Jeff at Claycut-14,972
Jeff just before Lobdell- 32,927
Jeff Just before Corporate 38,500
EBR engineering traffic counts(most recent)
N Blvd, Foster to Acadian
Both directions year 2011 7,784
East bound year 2010 5,253
West bound year 2004 4,133
Claycut- Foster to Jefferson both ways- year 2014 7,006
Goodwood- Lobdell to Jeff both ways-year 2014 5,273
This is a snapshot of what was going on prior to the road diet.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:05 pm to doubleb
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North St ( not N Blvd)just East of Foster- 7,808
This is a misleading one. North St east of foster basically dead ends in a residential neighborhood east of foster. Only west of foster does it connect to anything.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:06 pm to J Murdah
i drove from jefferson to government today and turned on government....
they are taking up a lane all along government with a "median" near intersections.....
they are taking up a lane all along government with a "median" near intersections.....
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:09 pm to td1
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I agree. Govt Street was never a good candidate to be 4 lanes. It was a bad decision back in the day to make it 4 lanes.
Wrong
Government Street or La 73 was part of the state highway system.
Parts of Government East of 110 handled over 24,000 cars per day.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:09 pm to kingbob
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This is a misleading one. North St east of foster basically dead ends in a residential neighborhood east of foster. Only west of foster does it connect to anything.
My error I’ll correct
Thxs
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:21 pm to doubleb
It was a bad decision bc the setbacks on a majority of the buildings on the stretch between 110 and Jefferson were not far enough away from the hwy. They had the same problem on Starring, and had to drop the speed limit.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:29 pm to OysterPoBoy
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But you people would rather get on here and bitch about progress
Why is having to drive somewhere that is not my destination, and needing to rent a bike on which I then have to travel to my destination necessarily considered progress?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:32 pm to bayoubengals88
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BUT, you have idiots that are in the right land and TURNING LEFT!
That's because both lanes used to turn left until the right-turning yield was idiotically removed. I see people constantly stuck in that lane or making last minute changes because they are used to the old double left turn setup.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:38 pm to td1
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This has been 15 years or more in the making and was modeled around trying to make it like Magazine in NO. The whole point was to make it inconvenient for you to use it as a thoroughfare to and from downtown. The Mid City Redevelopment Alliance and the Mid City Merchant's Association only want you there if you are visiting the local businesses.
The problem with that is there are not exactly a wealth of more direct/better connections to and from downtown. Is everyone supposed to go all the way to Florida? Its not like North Blvd is capable of handling the traffic that government street did pre-construction.
I don't hate the idea of making Government street more pedestrian friendly, etc. However, I am not sure this was the way to implement those changes whenever it is clearly, far and away the most direct and efficient way to get downtown without having to go all the way to I-10 or Florida.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:47 pm to td1
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It was a bad decision bc the setbacks on a majority of the buildings on the stretch between 110 and Jefferson were not far enough away from the hwy. They had the same problem on Starring, and had to drop the speed limit.
The problem was there were no alternatives. 73 was a state highway. The demand was there. They couldn’t reroute 73 to N Blvd. somehow. There was no Corporate Blvd then. The situation wasn’t ideal, but they had no choice.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:59 pm to kingbob
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t will become impassable and businesses along its route not killed by the years of construction will be starved by reduced vehicle traffic as people avoid the area like the plague due to the buses clogging up the travel lanes stopping for 2 minutes every 100 feet.
From Acadian to Jefferson it’s already 1 lane each way due to them constructing what will be the eventual intermittent medians and traffic flows fine.
I don’t buy that pedestrian traffic will significantly increase, but businesses will be fine.
If this even marginally increases gentrification it’ll be a win.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:02 pm to Loungefly85
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From Acadian to Jefferson it’s already 1 lane each way due to them constructing what will be the eventual intermittent medians and traffic flows fine.
It’s fine now because the busses aren’t running. The busses are the main problem.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:10 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Gov st will still be 4 lanes west of 110. Depending on where you’re going north blvd is better connection to downtown right now.
The problem with that is there are not exactly a wealth of more direct/better connections to and from downtown. Is everyone supposed to go all the way to Florida? Its not like North Blvd is capable of handling the traffic that government street did pre-construction.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:22 pm to Crucial Taunt
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Plus you have North Blvd and Florida Blvd right there running parallel to Government and both are underutilized by thru traffic
I can't remember the last time I didn't use North Boulevard when needing to go from Jefferson/Government to downtown. It is 4 lanes with less lights, less left turners and less congestion than Government. Thru traffic will learn to use it once the 3 lane section of Government is complete.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:23 pm to LSUengr
My issue with North is the lights are often poorly timed between Peachtree st and I-110. There’s fewer lights on North, but I typically have to stop at every single one of them.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:46 pm to kingbob
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My issue with North is the lights are often poorly timed between Peachtree st and I-110. There’s fewer lights on North, but I typically have to stop at every single one of them.
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