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re: Rivian R1T’s first real-world towing test shows 62% range loss

Posted on 11/30/21 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 2:58 pm to
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No truck loses 10MPG towing


Awfully convenient opinion of yours.


Drove 10 hours and averaged 19 mpg. Hooked up to a trailer hauling a tractor/implements. About 10k pounds worth of crap and averaged about 17 mpg over the 10 hours back. This trip was in a 2006 Silverado 2500hd with the Duramax. Drove about 75-85 mph consistently both ways.

The only people that this electric truck will appeal to are people that really don't need a truck.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 2:59 pm to
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Drove 10 hours and averaged 19 mpg. Hooked up to a trailer hauling a tractor/implements. About 10k pounds worth of crap and averaged about 17 mpg over the 10 hours back.


No fricking way. None, unless your return trip was straight down hill.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Drove 10 hours and averaged 19 mpg. Hooked up to a trailer hauling a tractor/implements. About 10k pounds worth of crap and averaged about 17 mpg over the 10 hours back. This trip was in a 2006 Silverado 2500hd with the Duramax. Drove about 75-85 mph consistently both ways.

The only people that this electric truck will appeal to are people that really don't need a truck.


I get something like 4mpg worse driving back from Lafayette to Baton Rouge than I do driving from Baton Rouge to Lafayette. And that’s in a car not towing a damned thing. You’ve allowed an elevation gradient to lull you into a very silly opinion.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Drove 10 hours and averaged 19 mpg. Hooked up to a trailer hauling a tractor/implements. About 10k pounds worth of crap and averaged about 17 mpg over the 10 hours back. This trip was in a 2006 Silverado 2500hd with the Duramax. Drove about 75-85 mph consistently both ways.




I highly doubt this. I love diesel trucks, and have towed with them many times. They’re the best in the world for pulling heavy shite, but these numbers didn’t happen.


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The only people that this electric truck will appeal to are people that really don't need a truck.



I drive about 200 miles a week to / from work, but also need a truck to put equipment in. I’ll also occasionally have to go off the beaten path.

An all wheel drive truck that doesn’t kill me on gas is extremely appealing.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:05 pm to
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So there would be no more battery degradation during those 44 miles?


What he’s saying is that 162 miles is pretty close to 50% of 310 miles. You know, what’s reported on their own website?
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Drove 10 hours and averaged 19 mpg. Hooked up to a trailer hauling a tractor/implements. About 10k pounds worth of crap and averaged about 17 mpg over the 10 hours back.


No fricking way. None, unless your return trip was straight down hill.


It was from nw Georgia back to near Lafayette, so on average a lot of it was probably down hill. I'm just going by what the truck's computer put out. It was more like 18.9 and 16.7.

That's not the first time I've done a trip like that. It's always only 2-3 mpg drop. It's not a gas burner, probably would lose more than 10 mpg if it was.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:15 pm to
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What he’s saying is that 162 miles is pretty close to 50% of 310 miles. You know, what’s reported on their own website?


It's actually better than what's on the website
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:17 pm to
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Because 118 miles ain’t shite in the mainland US


I tow my speed boat this far round trip on any given summer weekend.

With my truck, uses between half and quarter tank of gas
Posted by member12
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:17 pm to
11,000 lbs of towing and my gas SUV’s range will be halved.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:20 pm to
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11,000 lbs of towing and my gas SUV’s range will be halved


Yea, but it'll still be about 250 miles.

11,000 pounds is heavy as frick though. Few people ever pull that much weight at all, much less regularly. Those who do pull that alot, have 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.

Eta: that picture in the article of a mustang on a car hauler, that whole getup might weigh 7k lbs, maybe.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted by chackbae
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:26 pm to
Cool then don’t buy a Rivian.


If you’re worried about people buying electric cars then I assume you’re the kind of guy who cares about what other guys wear.

If electric trucks suck then nothing to worry about. If they’re good then ICE trucks will step up their game. WGAF
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:27 pm to
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It was from nw Georgia back to near Lafayette


That’s about a thousand feet of elevation. That’s substantial, even over that distance.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:28 pm to
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11,000 pounds is heavy as frick though. Few people ever pull that much weight at all, much less regularly.

Loaded out bay boat will get you part of the way there.

Then, have you seen how fat people in La are? Load up the family for a fishing trip and you might be pushing it.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:29 pm to
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My F-250 doesn't get 19MPG.


yours deleted?

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I think 17 is the average for me but I have it leveled and bigger tires on it.


me too. stock size tires i was getting upward of 20-21 after my delete in ideal conditions.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:34 pm to
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WGAF


Anyone who is concerned that Shits & Giggles are
gonna try to force EVs on the public when they aren’t a viable option to ICEs.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:35 pm to
I'm shocked I tell you shocked.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:38 pm to
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It was from nw Georgia back to near Lafayette


That’s about a thousand feet of elevation. That’s substantial, even over that distance.


Agreed, which is why it was probably only a 2 mpg loss that trip. However, on other similar trips without much of any elevation change, it typically loses no more than 3 mpg.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:39 pm to
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No truck loses 10MPG towing and I can fill my truck up in 5 minutes at a ton of different places.


My 2021 ford F-150 begs to differ. 23 mpg to 13mpg. and thats pulling a 19ft boat. 2.7 ecoboost.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:42 pm to
My diesel truck will lose 10mpg easily if towing heavy vs unloaded. If you cherry pick your scenarios (babying unloaded vs towing heavy) is like 24mpg vs 8.5 mpg.
Posted by chackbae
Member since Nov 2021
106 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:43 pm to
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Anyone who is concerned that Shits & Giggles are gonna try to force EVs on the public when they aren’t a viable option to ICEs.



Given the fact that we don’t have enough material to make enough EVs, I wouldn’t worry too much about it for a bit.

But I take your point. Wasn’t thinking of it like that.
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