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re: Rivian R1T’s first real-world towing test shows 62% range loss

Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Pretty much exactly the opposite.


Then the DTE algorithm is fudging something because that isn't how batteries work.

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Yes this is obviously accounted for in the range calculation. Do you think these engineers and software developers are stupid? Don't you think they've made sure that the vehicle will get you to the charging stations that the vehicle is aware of and which it routes you to?


They aren't stupid but they also make mistakes and also have to show what they are producing in the best light posdible. Unlike you who is just a miserable fricking retard that takes everything at face value since you lack a STEM education past whatever got you a GED.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:11 pm to
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Then the DTE algorithm is fudging something because that isn't how batteries work.
"Fudging".

It's a margin of safety. But yeah call it fudging if you must be derogatory.

And when designing a UI you don't present the raw state of the battery to the user. The user doesn't care how batteries work, nor should they. All that matters in an EV is how far it will take you. That's what the software between the battery and the user is for.
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They aren't stupid but they also make mistakes and also have to show what they are producing in the best light posdible.
A mistake so blatant as to leave drivers stranded when they supposedly had 10 miles left would be fixed with quickness. This also relates to presenting the product in the best light possible. It is far, FAR better to display conservative estimates to the user than optimistic ones.
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Unlike you who is just a miserable fricking retard that takes everything at face value since you lack a STEM education past whatever got you a GED.
At least I understand the very basics of how EVs, UIs, software, and the essentials of customer satisfaction work. I mean do you genuinely believe that these companies are risking stranding motorists all over the place in some retardedly misguided attempt to make the car look better? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33949 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:18 pm to
I see what you are getting at and I do not disagree. However, I think we have better than anecdotal evidence out there. As far as a Tesla goes, the owner has a ton of data available to them. There isn't a shortage of people putting that out on the internet for discussion
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12504 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:52 pm to
The last finance deal I did involving Tesla had a lot of the internet data and talking points thrown at us from the investor’s engineers. And I mean the better ones, not Facebook memes. We had to use the actual data to refute many of the assumptions. Some were close, others were shockingly wrong. It really just depends because a lot of what people assume are actual data points are not really that direct. That and to accurately calculate degradation, you just need a lot more than max charge cap or rate of discharge depletion over time. But eventually this data will get out there more and more. It’ll hit a critical mass at some point where the volume will improve its accuracy.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:54 pm to
Very interesting
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