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re: "Revenge Porn" - Should this be a crime?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:43 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:43 pm to Dr RC
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I've never really understood the mentality of people who release nude pics of their exes.
people do lots of irrational and emotional shite after breakups. it's one reason i'm getting out of domestic law for a bit
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All I really get from that is the person getting "revenge" is a d-bag that isn't to be trusted.
and i wouldn't do it. but just b/c people do shite i don't agree with doesn't mean it rises to the level of a crime
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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compare and contract a "revenge porn" scenario with what just happened to a famous judge-poster from here
right?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this is more of the "send nude selfie to boyfriend via text, and after you break up, he posts them online" type
In general I agree with you about the scary laws that come from overreaction to the crisis of the week, but if this were a professional arrangement there'd be a legal document stating the photographer's rights to use the pictures he takes of model, no? And if a couple were to actually go through the process of making a similar legally binding document, it's reasonable to assume that the usage the model consents to is personal rather than public use, no? Classifying it as domestic violence is crazy, but if the picture causes actual damage, I don't think it's crazy to think the photo releaser exceeded the implied usage agreement and could be sued for damages.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but just b/c people do shite i don't agree with doesn't mean it rises to the level of a crime
Agree to an extent. If it causes a person his/her job then I think the person who released them without their consent should be held responsible.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Well, you know why it is a crime, and it has everything to do with the class this law is designed to protect.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:47 pm to TigerinATL
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but if this were a professional arrangement there'd be a legal document stating the photographer's rights to use the pictures he takes of model, no?
i think that's just a clarification of IP rights. i don't think it's truly necessary to establish basic property rights
*ETA: that's also primarily for OTHER parties claiming ownership
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:48 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If it causes a person his/her job then I think the person who released them without their consent should be held responsible.
what about a geauxjudge situation, where online postings affect your personal life?
where does the line of personal responsibility get established?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think that's just a clarification of IP rights. i don't think it's truly necessary to establish basic property rights
*ETA: that's also primarily for OTHER parties claiming ownership
Then why do TV shows blur the faces of people that didn't sign consent forms?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:48 pm to SabiDojo
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and it has everything to do with the class this law is designed to protect.
consumer protection...the 2nd scariest types of laws
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:49 pm to TigerinATL
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but if this were a professional arrangement there'd be a legal document stating the photographer's rights to use the pictures he takes of model, no?
The context is key. Professional arrangement versus relationships
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:50 pm to TigerinATL
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Then why do TV shows blur the faces of people that didn't sign consent forms?
those people didn't consent to have their image distributed. it's also a big CYA scenario. IP is crazy
you can't make the same argument for a picture you willingly took yourself and sent out to others, or for a professional setting where you volunteer to have your pictures taken
i am no IP expert, but they are clearly different scenarios
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:51 pm to SabiDojo
Apparently the way the laws are now, if the chick takes the pic herself and sends it to someone, its legal for them to post it. If someone else takes it it's not. This may settle the professional arrangement argument and having consent forms and such. it is because the photographer, not the model is taking the pics. Still think they should have laws against it.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
The only porno that should be outlawed is kiddie porn.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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absolute bullshite statement
No, regardless of your oh so awesome personal history and abilities
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when i got my first job job, my boss didn't even have to tell me about how i act outside of work. i told him i understood that i was representing his firm at all hours of the day. again, this isn't a difficult or novel concept.
relevance?
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rushed legislation is pretty much always terrible legislation
Regardless, the situations described in that article are worthy of criminal charges.
You're not making sense here.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
All porn should be a crime.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what about a geauxjudge situation, where online postings affect your personal life?
where does the line of personal responsibility get established?
Right at the point where a reasonable person could assume that the content (postings, pictures, etc) is for public consumption.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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people do lots of irrational and emotional shite after breakups.
true
but when a person does something like that all it really does it make me go "Hmm... Maybe your SO wasn't completely in the wrong in the first place?"
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:57 pm to uway
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No, regardless of your oh so awesome personal history and abilities
so people sharing personal stuff was unknown at that point in time? really?
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relevance?
behavior has consequences. sometimes behavior in your private life affects your professional life. that's not a complex, or hidden, concept
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the situations described in that article are worthy of criminal charges.
why?
if you send me an email, and i forward that email, is THAT a crime?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:58 pm to TN Bhoy
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All porn should be a crime.
what the hell is "porn" anyway
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:59 pm to uway
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Right at the point where a reasonable person could assume that the content (postings, pictures, etc) is for public consumption.
so it should be a crime to re-send ANY sort of information that can reasonably construed as "non-public"?
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