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"Revenge Porn" - Should this be a crime?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:26 pm
Cracked Article about revenge porn
a few thoughts on the article:
absolute bullshite statement
i've been heavily involved in online social interaction since the mid-90s (AOL chat rooms, baby!). i was posting on a social message board by 17, and it was full of nudes and risque pictures. how many have i eve taken/distributed? 0
i wouldn't even accept nudes, b/c when they got out (and they always do), i didn't want people to point a finger at me. if a girl would just message/email me a bad pic, i'd tell her not to do it again, etc.
i was 17. now i know not everyone will be as wise as a 17 year old SFP, and there are very few people who are as smart/smarter than SFP, but if you're 30+ years old, you should know better. there is always a risk of this, and anybody who has been to middle school and heard rumors knows this
we're not talking about hidden cameras here
the pic did get "put out there" by the person who took the pic/video
when i got my first job job, my boss didn't even have to tell me about how i act outside of work. i told him i understood that i was representing his firm at all hours of the day. again, this isn't a difficult or novel concept.
domestic...violence/ wtf
does personal responsibility just not exist?
serious question
compare and contract a "revenge porn" scenario with what just happened to a famous judge-poster from here
anytime you hear that some movement has gotten many laws passed in a short amount of time, it's pretty much a guarantee that the laws will be scary ones. rushed legislation is pretty much always terrible legislation
a few thoughts on the article:
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Also remember that when they shared their pictures, "revenge porn" wasn't even a term yet. You can't take precautions against something you don't know exists, and they were no more prepared for the revenge porn experience than you are for the Great High-Fructose Corn Syrup Tsunami of 2016.
absolute bullshite statement
i've been heavily involved in online social interaction since the mid-90s (AOL chat rooms, baby!). i was posting on a social message board by 17, and it was full of nudes and risque pictures. how many have i eve taken/distributed? 0
i wouldn't even accept nudes, b/c when they got out (and they always do), i didn't want people to point a finger at me. if a girl would just message/email me a bad pic, i'd tell her not to do it again, etc.
i was 17. now i know not everyone will be as wise as a 17 year old SFP, and there are very few people who are as smart/smarter than SFP, but if you're 30+ years old, you should know better. there is always a risk of this, and anybody who has been to middle school and heard rumors knows this
quote:
If you see a picture of a naked person online, the default assumption is that they put it there themselves,
we're not talking about hidden cameras here
the pic did get "put out there" by the person who took the pic/video
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Of course, it's a bummer if your boss finds those pictures, because most workplaces frown on that sort of thing.
when i got my first job job, my boss didn't even have to tell me about how i act outside of work. i told him i understood that i was representing his firm at all hours of the day. again, this isn't a difficult or novel concept.
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Vora had more luck: Because her state is one of the few where revenge porn is illegal, she could get her ex arrested on domestic violence charges.
domestic...violence/ wtf
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And the laws won't get more specific until people decide that someone who takes a nude picture of themselves still deserves protection. Silly lawmakers -- naked people are clearly very vulnerable. They need protection the most.
does personal responsibility just not exist?
serious question
compare and contract a "revenge porn" scenario with what just happened to a famous judge-poster from here
quote:
End Revenge Porn has made an incredible amount of progress getting laws passed in a short amount of time.
anytime you hear that some movement has gotten many laws passed in a short amount of time, it's pretty much a guarantee that the laws will be scary ones. rushed legislation is pretty much always terrible legislation
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 4:30 pm
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Omg
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
here's a novel concept: don't send out nudes on the internet if you don't want people to see them.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:30 pm to TH03
this is more of the "send nude selfie to boyfriend via text, and after you break up, he posts them online" type
at least in the nicest angle for the person whose nudes are getting out
at least in the nicest angle for the person whose nudes are getting out
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
Meh. If the person agreed to the picture being taken, they should assume (in this day) that it will eventually end up on the internet. If the pic/video was done without the person's knowledge then that seems like it would be illegal along the lines of wiretap law (just spitballing though).
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if a girl would just message/email me a bad pic, i'd tell her not to do it again, etc.
Jesus Christ
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
a crime? maybe, idk
it's wrong as frick tho
it's wrong as frick tho
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:31 pm to patnuh
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Jesus Christ
there is a LOT of porn on the internet. porn that i won't ever have to worry about being accused of sharing
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:35 pm to Buddy Garrity
When you give somebody a picture, electronically or a paper copy, it becomes their property and they can do with it as they please.
It may not be moral, but it is certainly legal.
It may not be moral, but it is certainly legal.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
If man/wife or bf/gf videoed a sexual encounter for their own viewing pleasure, with the understanding that video would remain private and later the video was made public for the sole purpose to embarrass one party. I absolutely think that should be a crime.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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. porn that i won't ever have to worry about being accused of sharing
How do you jump from a girl sending you nudes to worrying about possibly being accused of sharing them? Just accept the pics and take a look every now and then.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:36 pm to Bard
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If the pic/video was done without the person's knowledge then that seems like it would be illegal
oh it is. we ain't debating that
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:37 pm to patnuh
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How do you jump from a girl sending you nudes to worrying about possibly being accused of sharing them?
that's the natural progression of things
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Interesting questions, Prof. Pro. But I'd argue the ideas here aren't as new as you think they are. Blackmail has been a crime since the middle ages. Maybe revenge porn is a subset of blackmail, except that in revenge porn there's (usually?) no demand for money or other benefits. Or maybe it's more like HIPAA, which makes it a crime, in some cases, to publicize private information about a person without his explicit consent. (There are also similar laws that apply to teachers who publicly release confidential education records.) Or maybe it's just a new and particularly tabloid-friendly version of garden variety harassment.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
It sucks that people put pictures up on the internet without a person's consent. That being said, there is one way to avoid embarrassment. Don't put your face in the picture!
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
I've never really understood the mentality of people who release nude pics of their exes.
All I really get from that is the person getting "revenge" is a d-bag that isn't to be trusted.
Sorta like how some dudes will go on and on to everyone about how some girl did something nasty to them but then simultaneously call them a whore for it.
Uhh, dude, you allowed her to do it. You probably asked for it in fact. You clearly liked it. You are just as big a "whore" as her and by opening your fat mouth all you are doing is making it LESS likely another girl will do you the same kind favor.
Like that guy who let his frat know the girl at Duke was in porn. WHY would you advertise that if you wanted to ever have a shot at getting with her?
Think McFly! THINK!
All I really get from that is the person getting "revenge" is a d-bag that isn't to be trusted.
Sorta like how some dudes will go on and on to everyone about how some girl did something nasty to them but then simultaneously call them a whore for it.
Uhh, dude, you allowed her to do it. You probably asked for it in fact. You clearly liked it. You are just as big a "whore" as her and by opening your fat mouth all you are doing is making it LESS likely another girl will do you the same kind favor.
Like that guy who let his frat know the girl at Duke was in porn. WHY would you advertise that if you wanted to ever have a shot at getting with her?
Think McFly! THINK!
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:41 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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Or maybe it's more like HIPAA, which makes it a crime, in some cases, to publicize private information about a person without his explicit consent. (There are also similar laws that apply to teachers who publicly release confidential education records.)
but these are "private" records in that they aren't shared willingly by the person
if a person hands over their medical records or student records to another party, that party isn't subject to those laws
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Or maybe it's just a new and particularly tabloid-friendly version of garden variety harassment.
it's certainly this. like i said this isn't novel...it's just a new form of the same stuff. that's why i said anybody who has ever been through middle school understands how these rumors begin/spread
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i wouldn't even accept nudes, b/c when they got out (and they always do), i didn't want people to point a finger at me. if a girl would just message/email me a bad pic, i'd tell her not to do it again, etc.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Revenge Porn"
Link?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:42 pm to northshorebamaman
rust wouldn't accept nudes, either
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