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re: Reuters: Boeing 737 MAX certification flight tests to begin Monday - sources
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:22 am to BHM
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:22 am to BHM
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Just about every modern airframe needs complicated software to enable safe flight.
The F22 and F35 would be bricks without software.
Yes because passenger planes will have similar AOA and aerodynamic physics as an F22
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:35 am to Sentrius
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we all could use an American success story and a story of redemption.
I am torn because I want to see an American company succeed but Boeing did some incredibly shady shite and people died. Redemption can’t just come from putting the plane back in the sky.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:50 am to Sentrius
What did they do exactly to the MCAS system and to the plane’s hardware that provided bad information to the system?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:53 am to Sentrius
FAA told them to just go ahead and do the testing themselves and let them know how it comes out. Also gave Boeing a rubber stamp just in case Boeing passes itself.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:11 am to Strannix
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Yes because passenger planes will have similar AOA and aerodynamic physics as an F22
You are correct, passenger planes are not on the edge of being stable as say a fighter jet which is even more reason why is is acceptable to have software augment the flight controls.
Boeing is not alone in this. As planes become more and more efficient, software is required to keep them flight worthy.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:29 am to BHM
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software is required to keep them flight worthy.
And sometimes killing everyone on board
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:37 am to Sentrius
I don't know a whole lot about aviation at all, but I'd be terrified to go and pilot a plane with known problems and get in to make sure said problems have been fixed. I'm not sure if it works the same as some industries where they will try and make the system's fail to test the patch, but if it is, 30,000 feet in the air makes that a lot more important.
Just thinking about this and test pilots in general who get in aircraft with the sole mission of proving them or making them fail on purpose is giving me anxiety. Those guys have nerves of steel. Jeez.
Just thinking about this and test pilots in general who get in aircraft with the sole mission of proving them or making them fail on purpose is giving me anxiety. Those guys have nerves of steel. Jeez.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:40 am to Dizz
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I am torn because I want to see an American company succeed but Boeing did some incredibly shady shite and people died. Redemption can’t just come from putting the plane back in the sky.
Out of 500,000 flights two went down in absolute shithole countries with no standards for anything
Wouldn't take much to convince me this was some kind of intentional manufacturwd outrage
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:40 am to 225Tyga
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I will never get on a Boeing 737 MAX.
Pussy
Edit: the plane is amazing. Don't let two crashes in shithole third world countries ruin your outlook on a good jet.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:45 am to Sentrius
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Pilots will also intentionally trigger the reprogrammed stall-prevention software known as MCAS faulted in both crashes, and aerodynamic stall conditions
Those pilots:
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:48 am to Sentrius
I pray for a great bounce back as I have many friends who's entire lives have been devoted to aerospace, but after only 7 years in the industry myself, I could not think of a better time to get out. I hope Boeing can overcome this nightmare, there are a lot of jobs at stake. Many suppliers committed to the 737 have lost well over 1/3 of their business. They really need to get those lines back up or they will be crippled
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:48 am to YF12
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Out of 500,000 flights two went down in absolute shithole countries with no standards for anything
Wouldn't take much to convince me this was some kind of intentional manufacturwd outrage
Neighbor is retired American pilot flew 747 and 777, said you are putting your life in your hand with many of the non European foreign pilots, especially southeast Asians.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:55 am to Sentrius
So tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of flights of the original design and two crashes... Yet, going to approve and prove this thing safe after a few days of flights?
Yeah yeah, shitty countries and standards are what caused the crashes, but Boeing should have just scrapped the model and started over.
Yeah yeah, shitty countries and standards are what caused the crashes, but Boeing should have just scrapped the model and started over.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:08 pm to Sentrius
With the way 2020 is going, if I were Boeing I hold off about 6 more months...
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:25 pm to Sentrius
There’s just so many ways this can go tits up and only one way it can go right for Boeing. They’re fricked if absolutely anything - even if 100% not Boeing’s fault - goes wrong with the MAX anytime soon.
That plane never should have been built.
That plane never should have been built.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:26 pm to WestlakeTiger
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Edit: the plane is amazing. Don't let two crashes in shithole third world countries ruin your outlook on a good jet.
The plane is objectively the worst plane ever made at this point in its career.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:36 pm to JG77056
they should donate flight time to the democratic party!
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:38 pm to Sentrius
The Dow is going the rocket higher tomorrow on this news
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:40 pm to SM6
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Going to be an interesting two to three years in the industry.
The cost cutting and covid restrictions make flying sound so unhappy right now. Pain and annoyance aside, I do plan on driving for most of my trips now.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:08 pm to BHM
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Boeing is not alone in this. As planes become more and more efficient, software is required to keep them flight worthy.
Some company should be alone in prioritizing human lives over efficiency.
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