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Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2132 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Since 1865, every conflict the US military has fought in has been on foreign soil… on virtually every continent… but we were fighting “globalization” then? Thank you for you and your family’s service, but It’s the same as it ever was.


I don’t disagree, but my outlook is way different now then it was when I was 18. I had a rosier view and believed that everyone loved America and being an American as I did. I thought we were all doing the right thing.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55448 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:48 pm to
Smedley Butler might have been a dirty pinko, but he was all too right when saying, "war is a racket".
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4589 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

For those of you who served, how many of you would discourage your kids from doing so in the current political/national climate? I get the sense it's a pretty strong number but could be wrong.




As long as AF or Space Force, I wouldn't have a problem. My daughter, no pics, has served going on 7 years as a flight medic.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98184 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Good buddy of mine was offered an exorbitant monthly salary to work as a PMC in you know where. He is also a weirdo who misses combat, so I guess he'll make a fortune or die.


A guy from my hometown did a tour in Vietnam, then went SF and back to Vietnam on a SOG recon team. That wasn't enough so he signed on with the Rhodesian SAS and fought in the bush wars until the early eighties. Last I heard he ended up a safari guide in South Africa.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:13 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24835 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:39 pm to
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a weirdo who misses combat,


It’s fricked up because it’s awful but it’s also pretty fricking great. It took the birth of my daughter to break me of that nasty war habit.

There are a lot of folks like your friend. It’s twisted and convoluted but…
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6839 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:43 pm to
they wouldn't want me back now.

I'm at least twice as mean and ornery now than I was during my 3 years as a Drill Sergeant. My give-a-frick was pretty low then, now it's totally nonexistent.
Posted by DOPEman
Austin, Tejas
Member since Sep 2018
245 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:29 pm to
If we were to get into an existential conflict with China or Russia?

Yes, absolutely. But short of that, no.
Posted by KAHog
South Trough
Member since Mar 2013
2367 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

My ancestors fought in the revolution and I’ve had a family member in almost every conflict since, myself included.


Lieutenant Dan?
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5297 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

What would entice you back into enlisting?




$5 million in an untaxable lump sum to even consider.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9589 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:51 pm to
I miss being a tank commander on a M1A2 Abrams tank. Even though I'm retired, if we ever needed an old broke down tanker for a mission, I'd answer the call.

I retired Dec 31, 2016.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:53 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117700 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:54 pm to
What if they sent ya to Ukraine?
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9628 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:59 pm to
I have no idea how hard it would be to get back in if you retired. I’m drawing my pension and not even sure how that would work. Regardless…. I’m 50 and served 30 years…. Would not go back into active service. Might consider a contractor role, but the money would have to be incredible.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9628 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

For those of you who served, how many of you would discourage your kids from doing so in the current political/national climate?


Only Air Force, Space Force or Coast Guard.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3444 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

As a white male, this administration has repeatedly blamed me for the problems in this country. So I will keep my combat veteran arse on my couch and continue to stockpile ammo to defend myself when that time comes.


This X2
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9589 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:10 pm to
frick it, man. To fight a tank one more time, yeah.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27356 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

For those of you who served, how many of you would discourage your kids from doing so in the current political/national climate? I get the sense it's a pretty strong number but could be wrong.


Already have. I know 4 baws that would have made some really good officers. They all possessed great grades, athletic, and smart. All of them considered OCS/ROTC up until latter part of HS and will not be applying to OCS after college. none are vaxxed and don't plan on it.

Supporting Austin LLoyd and Pedo Peter has consequences.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

What would entice you back into enlisting?
As a retiree I have exceeded my maximum length of service. Could not return to active duty even if I wanted to. And there is nothing the current administration could do to entice me to return to uniform in any capacity.

Also, I personally would not recommend to any individual to serve in uniform at this current juncture.
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:45 pm to
wb
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15826 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:38 pm to
Nothing.

Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15826 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

What would entice you back into enlisting?


Advantages:
1. Can get gender reassignment surgery and/or cross dress
2. Can have pronouns
3. Can sashay around base

Disadvantages:
1. Going to Ukraine
2. Going to Middle East
3. Going house to house in America

Weighing it all, I will decline being cannon fodder or molested for this country at this juncture.
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