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re: Restaurants are adding service fees up to 22%, and they don't plan on stopping soon

Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39707 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:12 pm to
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There’s too many shite restaurants anyway. The herd will thin itself


Covid forced a large portion of people to start cooking at home and people liked it. With the WFH movement still going, I bet people continue to cook at home.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:13 pm to
Is this the equivalent to "resort fee"
For Internet.. And bottled water
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
21661 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:13 pm to
Yeah if a large “fee” gets dropped on my bill with no explaination it’s either coming off or I’m walking on the whole thing.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39707 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:14 pm to
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don't mind tipping well. I don't mind paying an automatic gratuity for large groups. But a service charge on top of that is where I draw the line.


What if they just raised the prices 25%?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:14 pm to
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Restaurants are adding service fees up to 22%, and they don't plan on stopping soon

Hmmmm.....very similar percentage to what restaurants are charged by delivery services.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39707 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:15 pm to
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wonder if it is illegal to enter a negative tip?


I did that once. Pat Obriens stopped serving me
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
9476 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:16 pm to
Restaurants charging $10 for a burger are finding a way to add a couple more bucks to the bill in order to make up for 2 years of Covid shut down and a $15 minimum wage.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:18 pm to
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Guess I am going to get really good at using my grill and I don't even have to put on pants.


Buy a smoker and you'll ever only eat out for exotic food
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77228 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:18 pm to
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WFH movement still going


Is it here to stay or just a current trend?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18100 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:21 pm to
I would absolutely not pay a service charge. That's absurd.
Posted by Lugnut
Wesson
Member since Nov 2016
1483 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:25 pm to
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I may even leave a reason on my ticket.


Yea I’ll leave something alright…on the bathroom floor, walls, and ceiling if I can get it up there. Haha fuk them!
Posted by Jesco
Houston
Member since May 2022
232 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:26 pm to
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Guess I am going to get really good at using my grill and I don't even have to put on pants.


I’m an OT poor, living below my means. I’ve rediscovered cooking since restaurants have me priced out. Save a ton of money, no fees or tipping required. The food is OK, but the service is great.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 5:28 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:28 pm to
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Many restaurant owners view the service charge with ambivalence, as a necessary but imperfect fix for an industry that looks increasingly unsustainable.

This bit is laughable. There is probably no other industry that is more overly saturated than the restaurant industry. The number of restaurants we have is crazy, and that number keeps growing. That breeds cutthroat competition, I guess, but these more-or-less hidden fees serve as a way of propping up mediocre joints that otherwise may already be out of business.

I don't know how half of them stay in business, anyway.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
19932 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:33 pm to
Went to a restaurant with a few friends last Saturday.

Separate checks. I had ordered a beer and an entree.

Bill for me was 34.95 total with a 4.95 ‘service fee’. Needless to say, this fee was never mentioned by the server and I literally wouldnt have know about it if I didnt LOOK at the bill.

I circled the 4.95, put a ZERO in the tip line, and drew an arrow to the circle saying ‘Here’s your tip’
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:45 pm to
I ate Korean this weekend at a hole-in-the-wall joint. Damn good food, good service, and no service fee. I tipped well, and I'll be back there soon.

ETA: Two appetizers, two entrees one with three sides, and two drinks (no alcohol) and it was ~$64. For the amount of food we had that wasn't bad, especially compared to some other places.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
Member since Dec 2012
51231 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:47 pm to
I just wish they would raise them enough to keep poors out.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
103891 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:55 pm to
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What if they just raised the prices 25%?


Then I can still make the determination of whether it's worth the product I'm purchasing.

I understand food prices going up because of food costs going up. But I also know when it's being unnecessarily jacked up.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
10300 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:57 pm to
I sincerely don't remember the last time we ate out. I can cook any of it at home for way cheaper.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8279 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 6:00 pm to
Since the pandemic my wife and I have really improved our skills in the kitchen. We're at a point that we can each cook quite a few restaurant-quality meals, and multiple types of cuisines.

And unfortunately, we're both of the opinion that the quality of food at restaurants has plummeted. Maybe this is our imagination... Maybe we're just really cooking excellent quality meals at home. I'm not 100% sure.

This post isn't a brag, because we know plenty of better home cooks, and several of them post on the Food Board. But with blogs, YouTube, TD's Food Board, and so many other ways to learn about cooking that are available to us now, there isn't anything stopping someone from putting out fantastic food at home. Sure, we still eat out at our favorite places several times a month, but we're never going back to eating out 2-3 times a week like we did in the past.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9473 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 6:02 pm to
That’s exactly what I did when I took my parents out for Mothers’ Day. Bill arrived with a “20% service charge.”

Phrased that way, I took it to mean it was a built in tip. So I circled it on the receipt, paid my bill, left no additional tip and walked.

If the fee isn’t intended to be a tip, then you need to communicate that better. It’s that simple. All these euphemisms for price increases are unfriendly to the consumer and need to stop. We need to know EXACTLY what we are paying for and not. That’s what is fair to the customer first, and the waitstaff second.
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