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re: Report: Louisiana youth are too poorly educated, overweight, criminal to serve in military

Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:07 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:07 am to
It’s an observation. You should read my other posts in this thread where I’ve repeated my opinion several times.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48285 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:07 am to
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Tell that to the National Guard who lost TOPS due to the military telling them they were going to get deployed (and didn't deploy for months) and then lost their GI Bill.


Huh? What happened here? I haven't heard of this issue. Explain, please. Sounds like some kind of administrative injustice that needs fixing.

Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14776 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:35 am to
Weird article. I think only 20% of the countries youth is actually eligible to serve if they were honest with everything and recruiters didn’t stretch rules and truths.

You’d be hard pressed to find a lot of 18-19 year old kids that don’t smoke pot and actually have a desire to enlist in the military these days. Hell the military is kicking active duty guys out left and right for drugs
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:39 am to
I always wondered if I tried to get assistance from the state for my two boys if they would have turned out better. I was too poor to buy them anything but cheap junk food even though I have worked 40 hour weeks every week during their lives.

apparently OP has evidence that even if the state did help my two boys, the result would have been the same.

to know that Louisiana kids would turn out the same if the state didn't help any of them is sad news.

state just needs to do away with all programs because it doesn't help.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51368 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:40 am to
Mine was 100 maxxed it.
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Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:44 am to
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Note: this doesn’t include two guys i know that went to West Point and Naval Academy, respectively.


Those schools are Ivy-league quality.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:46 am to
Scruffy likes that the news keeps shitting all over that state.

Someone needs to do something about LA. The entire state is a case study in failure.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 10:47 am
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
21135 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:56 am to
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If tops isn’t around when my kids graduate and they don’t qualify for other scholarships you’ll be getting 3 healthy lads.


You’ve had 17 years for each kid, surly you were able to set aside money for their college Education.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:07 am to
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75 percent of the state's young adults are unable to join the military because they are too uneducated, too overweight and have a record of crime or drug abuse.


It is becoming a national security issue. The military has always relied on the South and Midwest for recruits but that model is changing.

The smart people at Future Plans say it will only get worse.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1510 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:22 am to
Just don't listen to him (tdcline). Obviously, his inferiority complex runs deep. I served for 4 years. Mostly because college didn't appeal to me and to get out of my hometown. It was a good experience.

You meet some clowns, but you do with every career/profession. It's not like every military member is lining up precision points on a laser. Most of the time is down time, where you are doing mundane things. The good thing is basic training usually weeds out the numbskulls in a couple weeks but a few slip through the cracks and make it to permanent party.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84065 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:23 am to
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Just don't listen to him (tdcline). Obviously, his inferiority complex runs deep. I served for 4 years. Mostly because college didn't appeal to me and to get out of my hometown. It was a good experience.

You meet some clowns, but you do with every career/profession. It's not like every military member is lining up precision points on a laser. Most of the time is down time, where you are doing mundane things. The good thing is basic training usually weeds out the numbskulls in a couple weeks but a few slip through the cracks and make it to permanent party.


I don't let one doofus change my view of any group of people. I appreciate yalls service, even his
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8500 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:28 am to
My recruiter told me it was depressing working as a recruiter in Lafayette. He had one guy that tried to join with a score of 6 on his ASVAB. I honestly do not know how that is possible ,but the kid was from Northside. He told me that many people who expressed interest in joining were way too heavy, were barely literate, or just had to too much baggage which I don't know how that is possible cause I have seen the Army take in less than stellar people. This was 15 years ago and holy shite I just realized I am getting old...
Posted by dietcoke7
LA
Member since Aug 2007
1035 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:29 am to
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About 10 years ago, HBO did a documentary about military recruitment from a high school in Houma. It was depressing. I think it followed 3 kids and two of them did well...one a regular guy and one who went on to Ranger school. But there was one that went AWOL from basic or something like that and knowing the area, more people are like the last example than the other two.


The documentary is called The Recruiter.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:30 am to
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Most of the time is down time


I’m not sure what branch you were in but that doesn’t sound accurate at all. We had very little down time. I’m sure a lot of that depends on the branch and unit you were in. If you’re on a ship in the Navy, I could see there being a lot of down time (but I’m not really sure there either).

Maybe national guard has a ton of downside or something, idk. but it’s bullshite to listen to some of these guys with absolutely no experience in these situations present that they have knowledge of them. We had some bad recruits get through the cracks and get into boot camp but most of those washed out within a month.

Some of us have friends that won’t ever return home or came home in a box and I’m not going to listen to some posters basically call them dumbasses who couldn’t get into college. The standards in place right now actually make it really difficult to put kids in. I think a lot of guys think people just walk into a recruiting station and you’re shipped off 2 weeks later. There’s a ton of medical hurdles, background checks, etc to get through before you’re even able to attend boot camp.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 11:37 am
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:32 am to
We would never look back
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1510 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:44 am to
Quartermaster/supply in the Army. When we didn't have something to do... plenty of downtime.

Look I get what you're saying. I do. Some people don't understand the sacrifices service members make. Good on them. Our armed forces is all volunteer and I like it that way.

I have a former co-worker that was in the marines and this guy never shut up about being a devil dawg. I mean 24/7 telling stories to people that didn't care. It was rather embarrassing as a veteran. The past is exactly the past. I know what honorable service I did and uncle sam knows what honorable service I did. Don't be that guy that has to glorify his time because honestly most people don't care and it makes thw military in general look like a bunch of socially inept morons and trust me this former co-worker was only one of many who was looking for a pat on the back for something that he volunteered for.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5827 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:44 am to
So a press conference to tell Louisiana State government to do a better job raising kids? I guess none of these guys are libertarians.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18145 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:56 pm to
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You’ve had 17 years for each kid, surly you were able to set aside money for their college Education.



Oh they're under the age of 6

and we absolutely set money aside for college for them

but the rate that tuition increases is going to be very hard to keep up with
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