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re: Replacing Toilet - DIY or Plumber? - Update - I changed them but problem in OP

Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
35315 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:18 pm to
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That's an easy DIY job if you're the least bit handy.
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Just have to make sure you get the wax ring right and don't put too much torque on the bolts or it will crack the toilet.


This about sums it up.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15480 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:22 pm to
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If so, would the Sani Seal Wax Free Ring make it any easier?


Yes, It will hold the bolts upright so you can set the toilet without the bolts flopping around. It's also reusable where a wax ring is a one shot deal. The Sani Seal has taken the abuse of the 300 lb fatties in my rental unit with no problems.

Turn off the water, flush, let flush finish then dump a bucket of water (2 -3 gallons) in the bowl. Dumping the bucket of water will pretty much get all the water out of the bowl except in the trap.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 12:39 pm
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
22738 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:29 pm to
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leave the back un-caulked


Forgot to mention that.
Posted by Tigertracks
Houma La.
Member since Nov 2007
766 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:32 pm to
Hardest part for me was moving the new toilet into place because I have a small bathroom. Like others said, use a wax ring, don't over tighten bolts, don't put silicone around the edges. Otherwise, like many household plumbing jobs, is fairly easy, just can be messy.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19112 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:34 pm to
That is what I call a Category 3 Project: You want to do it; you are pretty sure you can do it; & even if you learn you can't do it, you can't really screw things up that bad, nor will you waste a lot of money trying.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
171949 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:34 pm to
get the extra thick wax ring...
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18758 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:34 pm to
I replaced one last year. Water valve outside the toilet was bad, and had to call for backup from a buddy of mine before I flooded my house.

The hardest part is the two bolts along the base. Everything else is basic connections. The seal you posted is what we used instead of the wax ring.

Also buy a cheap putty knife to remove the old wax ring.
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
7605 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:35 pm to
I replaced mine a few years back. It's definitely easy if you know what you're doing. I did it myself and it was a breeze.

If you have doubts you could do it, call someone. Poop ain't nothing to mess around with.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
111812 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:47 pm to
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get the extra thick wax ring...


Depending on the flooring this could cause the toilet to wobble. Those extra thick rings are made for situations where the flooring sticks up a good bit higher than the actual toilet flange.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3412 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:53 pm to
Toilet's easy. All the finer points have been covered already, but make sure it is level. Any rocking at all will be bad, so shim it if you have to. You DO NOT want to have to replace a broken flange.
Posted by austintigerdad
Llano County, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1884 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Water valve outside the toilet was bad
If a property is more than 10 years old, replacing a stuck water valve could be the toughest part of the job.

To replace that valve, you'll need to locate and close the main water shutoff valve near the street, and then use care to secure the pipe coming from inside the wall with a big wrench to avoid turning it and getting a nasty leak inside the wall.

ETA: Also take care when you dispose of the old toilet. I learned from experience that shattered porcelain can be incredibly sharp.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 1:17 pm
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13078 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:14 pm to
My wife and sister replaced a toilet at my house while I was at work one day. It works fine. I think you can handle it.
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
5730 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:19 pm to
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That's an easy DIY job if you're the least bit handy


It even takes less time than you may think.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15480 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:20 pm to
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If a property is more than 10 years old, replacing a stuck water valve could be the toughest part of the job.


I would just cut the water off at meter, swap out the toilet, and cut the water back on. Can you tell I hate to work on Fing plumbing.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18758 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:26 pm to
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To replace that valve, you'll need to locate and close the main water shutoff valve near the street,


The valve by the street was stuck, and my dumbass decided to risk it. Bad move.

I had to use a piece of flexible tubing to reroute the water from the wall. My wife came home and freaked out.

My buddy rushed over and was able to stick a pipe on the end of my water shutoff key so we could get enough torque to turn the water off at the street.

Then we used a pipe cutter to remove the old toilet shutoff valve. The new valve had a shark bite fitting that was very easy to install.
Posted by JohnnyT
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1828 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:28 pm to
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get the extra thick wax ring...

Depending on the flooring this could cause the toilet to wobble. Those extra thick rings are made for situations where the flooring sticks up a good bit higher than the actual toilet flange.
This is solid guidance. "Extra Thick" does not mean longer lasting, less likely to leak or anything else related to quality. It's about the distance of the flange to the throne. I know because I made this mistake once. Had to go back to the hardware store for a standard height wax ring.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:31 pm to
I did it and it was easy. Actually had a cracked flange, so I had to replace that as well (which was a bid of a pain because I had to tediously get the old flange "unglued" from the PVC in the ground, but wasn't difficult). Wear gloves and clean up the old wax. Get a new wax ring (I suggest the thicker as well. Don't know about the wax free one, but the wax one's work, so why fix what isn't broken. Being too thick wasn't a problem for me at least). It really is stupidly easy.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
4025 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:32 pm to
I'll add to the advice: use a big sponge to remove all the water from the tank/bowl after you have flushed it. There is always 1/2" to 1" of water left at the bottom and it will spill all over your house. Get it dry before you disassemble old one.

New ones are simple to install. They come with instructions and links to videos and what not. If you can operate youtube and turn a wrench, you can change a toilet.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24218 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Easy job but can be nasty, those old wax seals are disgusting.


This, but as long as you have the tools for it, shouldn't be a problem. I am pretty sure they sell kits that have all the tools you need for toilet plumbing problems. I observed a guy replace the wax ring on our toilet about a year ago and definitely noticed it looked really easy...just didn't want to attempt it on my own because we rent the place ad would be liable for damages if I fricked it up.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24332 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:09 pm to
Get the Sani Seal.
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