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re: Red hot October almost guarantees 2023 will be the hottest year on record- the real story

Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:24 pm to
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When you find out china and India have climate goals you will think it matters tho?


I don't think that they give a shite. So when 50% of the world's emissions numbers (going up yearly by the way) are doing their own thing and there is no appreciable world pressure to affect those numbers, then what the rest of the world does is moot. Hopefully that clarifies the reality of the situation for you. I've dumbed it down as much as I can.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31265 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:25 pm to
I swear to God if I wake up on Christmas morning and it's 85 degrees and muggy, I'm going to blow shite up.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21693 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:25 pm to
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We have thousands of years of CO2 and temperature data taken from ice cores.

What caused the warming and cooling trends before 200 years ago?

What made the earth covered in ice, inhospitable for most life, for the vast majority of its existence? Show your research work when explaining.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13063 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Why do you ignore the other elements of the atmosphere and focus on carbon only?

Because it has been relatively stable for hundreds of thousands of years up until humans started burning coal? And because it has been proven to trap heat. Noone is claiming CO2 is the only thing that affects the climate. It is just one piece of the puzzle. Does that mean we should ignore it? An asteroid could hit or 100 volcanoes could erupt tomorrow and have a huge impact. That doesn't mean we should ignore things we can predict using data and evidence.

I guess in your mind noone should focus on how much they weigh because there are other things that affect someone's health.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
929 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:28 pm to
Im not sure Covid existed, It was created in the labs in Communist China to lessen the financial burden of China's humongous elderly population. How it got to the U.S. is still in question. I think Big Pharma had their dirty, crooked hands in it and they greased the pockets of our rotten government to become the "Emergency" of the moment.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125624 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:28 pm to
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accurate climate data back to 1880


Lol

Maybe 1950
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13063 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:33 pm to
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don't think that they give a shite. So when 50% of the world's emissions numbers (going up yearly by the way) are doing their own thing and there is no appreciable world pressure to affect those numbers, then what the rest of the world does is moot. Hopefully that clarifies the reality of the situation for you. I've dumbed it down as much as I can

I understand the reality of the situation. Some people will be fricked. Show me any period in human history where some people weren't being fricked.

It's just part of the circle of life.
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
929 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:38 pm to
Show me one grain of evidence of the stability of the Earths atmosphere, hundreds of thousands of years ago, just one.
That is typical scientific Bull Crap!
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13063 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:50 pm to
Theres your evidence. Of course you probably will say it's just a coincidence that it went up right when industrialization was reaching its peak. We are currently up to 420ppm
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8262 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:54 pm to
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That doesn't mean we should ignore things we can predict using data and evidence.


I agree with you but this pipe dream that we are going to get off fossil fuels anytime soon is ridiculous. And none or very little of this green energy stuff is really going to have that much of an impact. We should persue it where it makes sense but we need to face reality. We cant stop whats coming.. only possibly mitigate it a bit. We have to be ready roll with the changes.

Over the course of the next 100-200 years we are very likely going to have impactful changes to our climate. It wont end the human race..not even close but it may make some places uninhabitable due to flooding or make ac absolutely necessary. This will cause mass migration in parts of the world. We will have changing weather patterns that will disrupt food production.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
37567 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:55 pm to
I’d only be concerned if the temperature just continued to go up like this every year.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13063 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:01 pm to
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I agree with you but this pipe dream that we are going to get off fossil fuels anytime soon is ridiculous. And none or very little of this green energy stuff is really going to have that much of an impact. We should persue it where it makes sense but we need to face reality. We cant stop whats coming.. only possibly mitigate it a bit. We have to be ready roll with the changes.

Over the course of the next 100-200 years we are very likely going to have impactful changes to our climate. It wont end the human race..not even close but it may make some places uninhabitable due to flooding or make ac absolutely necessary. This will cause mass migration in parts of the world. We will have changing weather patterns that will disrupt food production.

Yep. It will be the future that has to pay the price. I don't even want people do anything rather than come to grasps with the fact that this will have an effect on future generations. It is impossible to even discuss it while so many are intent on finding any excuse or just burying their head in the sand
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21693 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Theres your evidence

Graph indicates no temperature. Only CO2 ppm in the atmosphere. Next.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13063 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:09 pm to
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Only CO2 ppm in the atmosphere. 

Which does what? Traps heat. So no matter what the temperature would have been before, it will be hotter with more CO2
Mythbusters CO2
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
929 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:12 pm to
You didn't say 1950, you said hundreds of thousands of years ago and that is bullshite science. Where did that data come from. Its assumptions made by scientists, based on opinions by groups of scientists. Just like Darwinism, Dinosaurs came from birds, bullshite, man came from monkeys, bullshite. No Proof, NONE!
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21693 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:16 pm to
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So no matter what the temperature would have been before, it will be hotter with more CO2

The atmosphere of earth has been a constant in its current state going back hundreds of thousands of years?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13063 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:17 pm to
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You didn't say 1950, you said hundreds of thousands of years ago and that is bullshite science. Where did that data come from. Its assumptions made by scientists, based on opinions by groups of scientists. Just like Darwinism, Dinosaurs came from birds, bullshite, man came from monkeys, bullshite. No Proof, NONE!
Don't worry, we'll give the earth some of this to cool it off
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
30734 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:27 pm to
this was the coolest October i remember. maybe 2 days in the 90s which is rare. a few mornings in the 30s. i'm used to 90+ degree days well into November.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23096 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:35 pm to
To put that into context...



Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:38 pm to
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whopping
0.4 degrees
---does not compute
Maybe I can help you compute.

This is not like the change in temperature over the course of a day in your town or whatever. This is a global average. To maybe put it in perspective, when it was only 6 degrees cooler there were glaciers in Missouri. Setting a new record by nearly half a degree is quite a lot.
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