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Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:20 pm to rt3
I wonder if #4015 was pushing or freewheeling?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:48 pm to LongueCarabine
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I wonder if #4015 was pushing or freewheeling?
I would hope the diesel was just along for the ride
Big Boy should've been able to get that short train up the Huey P. without much issue
Posted on 8/24/21 at 11:53 am to LongueCarabine
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I wonder if #4015 was pushing or freewheeling?
I'm sure it was just idling.
They have a separate controller in the cab of the steam locomotive to operate the diesel when need be. Generally to save wear and tear on the water heater. Years ago on a trip with the MILW 261 the diesel was doing most of the work as the steamer needed new piston rings.
They will also use the dynamic brakes on the diesel to slow the train, assuming the UP's controller has that capability. I'm pretty sure it does. Using the dynos saves fuel and brake wear while giving a smoother ride to the passengers.
It's pretty rare for a steamer to run without a diesel in tow these days. The 261 does when it's out on the Twin Cities and Western out of the Twin Cities.
CP parked their 2816 quite some time ago. Haven't heard if they will ever bring it back out.
I've piloted both of those.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:14 pm to BuckyCheese
so... apparently there was an issue during yesterday's route and 4014 ended up running low on water... so somewhere in the country between Natchitoches & Shreveport Diesel 4015 had to be used as the main power source with 4014 put down to minimal water usage to make sure it didn't blow up
they were in a spot where there was no fire department around to help fill it up and the 1 fire hydrant they came across was either out of service or didn't have the water pressure needed to get water to the train
they were in a spot where there was no fire department around to help fill it up and the 1 fire hydrant they came across was either out of service or didn't have the water pressure needed to get water to the train
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:17 pm to rt3
Also... we need to talk about the town of Livonia for a second
Livonia hosted Big Boy overnight on Thursday into Friday.
After Big Boy filled up on water for the Friday trip to NOLA... the Livonia town officials were like "that's way too much of the town water supply you just used up to fill the train. we can't have you doing that again"
so on the return trip... instead of spending Sunday night in Livonia again like planned... UP decided to hold up in Addis and spend the night
adding 22 miles to Monday's route... which played a role in Big Boy's low water situation on Monday
Livonia hosted Big Boy overnight on Thursday into Friday.
After Big Boy filled up on water for the Friday trip to NOLA... the Livonia town officials were like "that's way too much of the town water supply you just used up to fill the train. we can't have you doing that again"
so on the return trip... instead of spending Sunday night in Livonia again like planned... UP decided to hold up in Addis and spend the night
adding 22 miles to Monday's route... which played a role in Big Boy's low water situation on Monday
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:18 pm to BuckyCheese
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They have a separate controller in the cab of the steam locomotive to operate the diesel when need be
When they were moving around NOLA the other day the diesel was doing a lot of work. Mainly when alternating directions. You could hear the diesel spool up and even hear the connections move both directions from the diesel when pulling slack out.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:18 pm to rt3
Surprising considering it has two water tenders behind the main tender which also carries water. Should be enough for a days trip I'd think. (They didn't have those two yellow water tenders in regular service back in the day. They did have many more places to take water.)
They also plan out well in advance where they will take fuel and water to avoid such situations.
eta-See your update about the overnight situation now.
They also plan out well in advance where they will take fuel and water to avoid such situations.
eta-See your update about the overnight situation now.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:22 pm to BuckyCheese
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Surprising considering it has two water tenders behind the main tender which also carries water. Should be enough for a days trip I'd think. (They didn't have those two yellow water tenders in regular service back in the day. They did have many more places to take water.)
They also plan out well in advance where they will take fuel and water to avoid such situations.
eta-See your update about the overnight situation now.
I think there was also an equipment issue... like a leaky valve or something... not 100% sure
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:29 pm to BuckyCheese
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They have a separate controller in the cab of the steam locomotive to operate the diesel when need be.
you can operate an entire miles long fricking train by a remote control
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:35 pm to rt3
Distributed power is pretty much the norm today. Reduces in train stresses on the monster trains that are common today.
Used to get coal trains with 3 AC's on the point, way back it was 5 SD40-2's, and one had to be kinda careful starting up or going through rollers as it was easy to get a knuckle with all the power on the head end. Went to DPU's with 2 on the front and one on the rear and it was nothing to run them.
Used to get coal trains with 3 AC's on the point, way back it was 5 SD40-2's, and one had to be kinda careful starting up or going through rollers as it was easy to get a knuckle with all the power on the head end. Went to DPU's with 2 on the front and one on the rear and it was nothing to run them.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:36 pm to rt3
It arrived and departed under steam power. I worked with LASTA (Louisiana Steam Train Association) to help out. They were about out of water when they backed into the Fly. They hooked up to a hydrant at the fly and I swear it looked like it took more than a day to fill up.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:39 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
The semi truck that pulled up as they parked had fuel oil in it? Was trying to figure out if it was H20, but made more sense to be fuel oil.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:41 pm to BuckyCheese
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I've piloted both of those.
What are all of the steamers you have piloted?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:51 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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What are all of the steamers you have piloted?
Just those two. Which is two more than most engineers as there isn't that many of them running on Class 1 mainlines. Got lucky.
Also ran this one year.
Holiday Train they run each year. Stops at multiple towns each day/night and has a band that puts on a show and collects donations for food banks and such. Brings out some good size crowds.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:53 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
went out to the fly to see it...
my only regret is that I couldn't go with my great-grandfather (who was an engineer on the Southern Pacific and broke in 745 when she was built at the Algiers shop) --that being said, he'd be 140 years old at this point
but it would have been a lot of fun to talk to him about it...
my only regret is that I couldn't go with my great-grandfather (who was an engineer on the Southern Pacific and broke in 745 when she was built at the Algiers shop) --that being said, he'd be 140 years old at this point
but it would have been a lot of fun to talk to him about it...Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:55 pm to fightin tigers
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The semi truck that pulled up as they parked had fuel oil in it? Was trying to figure out if it was H20, but made more sense to be fuel oil.
Yeah, would be oil.
They'd only use a tanker of water in an emergency as there's not nearly enough volume to fill it up. Would take a number of trucks. The tender alone holds 25,000 gallons and the two water tenders behind it are far larger.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:12 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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It arrived and departed under steam power. I worked with LASTA (Louisiana Steam Train Association) to help out. They were about out of water when they backed into the Fly. They hooked up to a hydrant at the fly and I swear it looked like it took more than a day to fill up.
how many OT baws swimming pools would have to be drained to fill up all of Big Boy's tenders full?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:27 pm to BuckyCheese
Not many trains run dp in the south. Only loaded oil, coal and grain trains, basically. So probably less than 15% of trains.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:34 pm to lsuhunt555
but stay for the Bernices for lunch
---wow, Bernices is still there? Outstanding
---wow, Bernices is still there? Outstanding
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