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Quote I hadn’t seen before from 1984

Posted on 6/21/20 at 11:54 pm
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 11:54 pm
quote:

The aim of the low, when they have an aim, is to abolish all distinctions and and create a society in which all men shall be equal. This throughout history a struggle which is the same in its main outlines recurs over and over again. For long periods of time the High seems to be securely in power, but sooner or later there always comes a moment when they lose either their belief in themselves, or their capacity to govern efficiently, or both. They are overthrown by the Middle, who enlist the Low on their side by pretending to them that they are fighting for liberty and justice.


-George Orwell, 1984

Prophetic.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 11:55 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 11:57 pm to
Common occurrence amongst Dystopia
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
11128 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:01 am to
This already happened in 2016.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28384 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:05 am to
quote:

This already happened in 2016.


I don't think I'd consider billionaire trump to be the middle
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139241 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:05 am to
quote:

This already happened in 2016.
Nice to see you took time out from your feet washing in CHAZ to opine on this matter
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:51 am to
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This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:17 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:58 am to
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This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:17 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:11 am to
People here and in life actually believe that there's a difference in politics and beliefs. When you are on the level of influencing countries, there are no politics or beliefs. There aren't even countries.

This whole political theater is bread and circuses and people eat it up like it's the last meal on earth.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:31 am to
quote:

The "high" in our society are the ultra-rich, and they won't be affected by the ongoing turmoil even a little bit.


Orwell is writing about the ruling class, not the rich.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4900 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:57 am to
quote:

George Orwell

How in hell did this man come in possession of an incredible prophetic vision?
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19526 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 6:46 am to
He sounds paranoid
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19728 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:40 am to
.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 6:57 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76243 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:42 am to
quote:

In fact, he kind of misses the mark completely.
Ironic statement to end your post.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 8:33 am to
The current ruling class are largely new. They’re the middles from Orwell’s story.

The uppers lost their courage, and the will to rule, and they were replaced in the middle of the 20th century by a new class of people.

I think this is one of our problems, the new elites are insecure, and they’re also in it for personal wealth and power.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 9:37 am
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
980 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 8:55 am to
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This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 11:14 am
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:02 am to
quote:

We must all be alike. Not everyone born free and equal, as the Constitution says, but everyone made equal. Each man the image of every other; then all are happy, for there are no mountains to make them cower, to judge themselves against. So! A book is a loaded gun in the house next door. Burn it. Take the shot from the weapon.


Ray Bradbury as prophet through the voice of Captain Beatty in Fahrenheit 451.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 9:03 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:12 am to
quote:

use fancy words to hide their meaning. Or just put garble on paper when they don't have anything real to say.


On absolutely, and it’s a small thing, but a really important lesson.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:48 am to
quote:

The "high" in our society are the ultra-rich,


Incorrect.
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