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Question for the OT nurses and docs - smoker?

Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:41 am
Posted by reveille
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:41 am
not a smoker but curious why it is that for every first visit for any doctor part of the questioning is always "are you a smoker, have you ever smoked". If you are in for a broken arm, what the hell difference does it make if the patient smokes? Does this change the way you treat or is it just to gather statistics??
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17139 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:42 am to
quote:

not a smoker but curious why it is that for every first visit for any doctor part of the questioning is always "are you a smoker, have you ever smoked". If you are in for a broken arm, what the hell difference does it make if the patient smokes? Does this change the way you treat or is it just to gather statistics??


Not an MD but I've been told smokers take longer to heal
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30586 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:42 am to
Let’s them know that if you smoke, you poke
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65779 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:45 am to

It sounds innocent enough but just be aware this is a major question during the insurance underwriting process. Your answer will follow you.
Posted by GeauxDoc
Highland Road
Member since Sep 2010
2544 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:47 am to
It's a key and important question. Smoking dramatically increases your health risk for all sorts of problems both major and minor. In short, to your doctor it is an essential piece of information.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65740 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:47 am to
The women I ran with never had to be asked.

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32521 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:47 am to
It's part of your social/medical history. They'll also ask you if anyone in your family has a history of cancer, which isn't related to a broken arm either, but is still important information for your overall health.

Also, it helps in research purposes.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120324 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:49 am to
You can gather a lot of info about a person based on whether or not they smoke.

Smokers heal more slowly and are also more likely to be noncompliant with treatment.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:55 am to
"Meaningful Use". It was a set of standards the govt used to "encourage" physician offices to implement and utilize EMR's. One of the measurements they used to determine if you received incentive money was if you were collecting certain social health measures. Nicotine, alcohol, drugs, etc.. It's also when you started being asked about your race and ethnicity at the doctor.

Before meaningful use, doctor's offices asked you what they believed was relevant to your care for their specialty. After, they asked you questions based on what data the government wanted to collect. Oh, and if we didn't implement, you would receive annual decreases in Medicare/Medicaid payments.

TLDR: Govt paid doctors to include the question in their EMR templates.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 8:58 am
Posted by rtbtiger
Member since Jan 2009
842 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:56 am to
The real answer is that this is a government requirement. Certain criteria have to be documented to take advantage of additional medicare/medicaid payouts. It's a way for them to hold back payments if certain bullshite questions are not asked and answered. Baseline payments are reduced and answers to certain questions must be documented in order to capture the total reimbursement allowed. It's a scam and a way for the government to cut their liabilities. If you do not see medicare/medicaid/tricare patients then there is no requirement.

Also what Hater said above
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 8:59 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27005 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:00 am to
quote:

It sounds innocent enough but just be aware this is a major question during the insurance underwriting process. Your answer will follow you.



Most answers given here are correct. Including this one.

It IS about gathering statistics.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3959 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:00 am to
Just part of routine questions

Medical history: diabetes? Heart issues? Cancer? Hepatitis? HIV?

Family history: cancer run in family? Parents still alive? What did they die from?

Social history: you smoke? You drink every day? Any other drugs? Work? Where do you live?

Allergies?

Take any medications regularly?



Just routine questions a doctor will ask the first encounter you ever have with them or their team.

Changes a lot of treatment algorithms based on your condition and what you need treated or surgery wise etc.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:02 am to
Why don’t they ever ask if you dip?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20406 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:03 am to
Just wait until they start asking you if you have a gun in the house.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9207 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:06 am to
It’s so they can properly judge you as not really worth saving. If you smoke you really don’t give a shite about your health so why should they?

It takes the pressure off them and they can just write you a scrip for an antibiotic and move on to the next patient.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Why don’t they ever ask if you dip?


I've seen PCP offices that ask.. "do you use nicotine Y/N. In what form?" And all ENTs ask that question.

But, otherwise, b/c it's not required and not relevant to most specialties.

This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 9:07 am
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1856 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:06 am to
inb4 Lost my gun in a boating accident.
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
4472 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:06 am to
quote:

If you are in for a broken arm, what the hell difference does it make if the patient smokes?


Makes it harder to smoke with a broke arm.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:07 am to
quote:

I've seen PCP offices that ask.. "do you use nicotine" Y/N. In what form? And all ENTs ask that question.


I was just curious, I know several nurses and doctors that dip, but I only know one that smokes.
Posted by rtbtiger
Member since Jan 2009
842 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:10 am to
quote:

I was just curious, I know several nurses and doctors that dip, but I only know one that smokes.


Everyone has their way of coping with stress. Doctor's and Nurses are no different.
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