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Question for OT lawyers.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:11 am
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:11 am
This Disney/Alligator incident has gotten me thinking. I believe it would be quite easy to represent either side of this case in a lawsuit. Both sides have legitimate points and a "win" by either side would be professionally satisfying if I was a representing attorney.
What about in a totally different type of case?
How do you feel when you "win" a case in court or get/avoid a big settlement when you are 100% sure your client is at fault?
For instance:
1. You get a murder victim off on a technicality by not allowing a video in court that clearly shows him committing the murder.
2. You get a big corporation off the hook from settling a case because they have bad witnesses, etc. In this case, you know the company you are representing is 100% at fault.
You get the picture.
How do you resolve (morally/spiritually/human guilt) working for the "wrong" side?
What about in a totally different type of case?
How do you feel when you "win" a case in court or get/avoid a big settlement when you are 100% sure your client is at fault?
For instance:
1. You get a murder victim off on a technicality by not allowing a video in court that clearly shows him committing the murder.
2. You get a big corporation off the hook from settling a case because they have bad witnesses, etc. In this case, you know the company you are representing is 100% at fault.
You get the picture.
How do you resolve (morally/spiritually/human guilt) working for the "wrong" side?
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:13 am to SECdragonmaster
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How do you resolve (morally/spiritually/human guilt) working for the "wrong" side?
Hookers & blow
This:
Not this:
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 8:17 am
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:14 am to SECdragonmaster
Lawyers have a job to do.
What do you do for a living?
What do you do for a living?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:15 am to SECdragonmaster
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2. You get a big corporation off the hook from settling a case because they have bad witnesses, etc. In this case, you know the company you are representing is 100% at fault.
Having to pay a bunch of money is not "getting off." People lose jobs because companies pay settlement money out. Money is money.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:15 am to SECdragonmaster
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How do you resolve (morally/spiritually/human guilt) working for the "wrong" side?
By not being a pussy.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:16 am to SECdragonmaster
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You get a big corporation off the hook from settling a case because they have bad witnesses, etc. In this case, you know the company you are representing is 100% at fault.
Insurance defense attorneys do this every day. I'm sure getting their paycheck that puts food on the table is their justification.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:19 am to SECdragonmaster
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How do you feel when you "win" a case
I would think pretty good
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You get a murder victim off on a technicality
Public defenders probably aren't thrilled...I think they don't mind losing. Big time defense lawyers probably are happy if not why take the case?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:23 am to SECdragonmaster
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How do you resolve (morally/spiritually/human guilt) working for the "wrong" side?
what? Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:28 am to Topwater Trout
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Public defenders probably aren't thrilled...I think they don't mind losing.
What kind of retarded logic are you applying here?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:44 am to SECdragonmaster
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1. You get a murder victim off on a technicality by not allowing a video in court that clearly shows him committing the murder.
Almost never happens. An innocent is likelier to be convicted than a guilty go free. DAs win about 80%+ of trials in Louisiana.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:48 am to SECdragonmaster
I rarely represent people/companies who are 100% at fault/liable/etc.
But when you have a client that is probably more culpable than the opposition, and you manage to turn the tables due to some procedural/discovery craftiness or something similar, I still feel good about it. That's the difference between good legal representation and someone who just guides you to the middle.
But these are usually wealthy people or businesses, we're typically not ruining lives here.
But when you have a client that is probably more culpable than the opposition, and you manage to turn the tables due to some procedural/discovery craftiness or something similar, I still feel good about it. That's the difference between good legal representation and someone who just guides you to the middle.
But these are usually wealthy people or businesses, we're typically not ruining lives here.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:56 am to Pettifogger
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But when you have a client that is probably more culpable than the opposition, and you manage to turn the tables due to some procedural/discovery craftiness or something similar, I still feel good about it. That's the difference between good legal representation and someone who just guides you to the middle.
That's a good way to put it.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:58 am to SECdragonmaster
I'm not a lawyer but I know a bunch. They love to win. They don't lose sleep over it.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:17 am to SECdragonmaster
I can say with total certainty that I have never had a case where I had a client with 100% fault, who got away 100% scot free. The only time I've been on the other end was when the other party disappeared after trial - probably back to Taiwan or China, never to be heard from again. And that's not exactly an example of brilliant lawyering.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:21 am to SECdragonmaster
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Both sides have legitimate points and a "win" by either side would be professionally satisfying if I was a representing attorney.
Dude a cute two year old got killed by an alligator on Disney property...there is absolutely no fricking way that gets in front of a jury.
Professionally satisfying for a lawyer means cha ching. The lawyer that represents the family of the boy will never have to work another day in his life after this settles.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:33 am to Lakeboy7
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Dude a cute two year old got killed by an alligator on Disney property...there is absolutely no fricking way that gets in front of a jury.
From Disney's perspective, the PR damage from nonstop CNN coverage would be much worse than whatever award the jury might give.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:37 am to Cold Cous Cous
And any Plaintiff's lawyer worth his weight in gaudy pinky rings absolutely knows that.
That case is a lottery ticket walking around. Supposedly there were signs warning not to swim, but Disney wants no part of this playing out in the media.
That case is a lottery ticket walking around. Supposedly there were signs warning not to swim, but Disney wants no part of this playing out in the media.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:43 am to Cold Cous Cous
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From Disney's perspective, the PR damage from nonstop CNN coverage would be much worse than whatever award the jury might give.
Disney cant control the bad press, but they absolutely can control jury exposure and they will.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:48 am to SECdragonmaster
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I believe it would be quite easy to represent either side of this case in a lawsuit. Both sides have legitimate points and a "win" by either side would be professionally satisfying if I was a representing attorney.
so defending OJ you're an a-hole but defending the gator, you're professionally satisfied.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:10 am to SECdragonmaster
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How do you feel when you "win" a case in court or get/avoid a big settlement when you are 100% sure your client is at fault?
I feel like I did my job better than the other side did their job.
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