re: Question for non gun owners

If you dont think you need a gun, then dont get a gun. I could argue as a citizen of the USA it is youre obligation to be armed under the 2A.

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And that'll be the first thing you think about when someone breaks into your house at 4 in the morning

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Honest question...are you actually concerned about this?

I mean...you may actually be, or you may actually live somewhere where this might actually be a valid concern. If so, I get it and you're right to be worried.

In my case, this never crosses my mind...ever. We sleep with the windows open in the spring and fall. In 12 years of living where we do, the most that's ever happened has been the occasional neighborhood kid breaking into an unlocked vehicle parked in the driveway and taking shite.

You know the kind of shite I worry about? My wife who has to drive 30 minutes to and from work on I-49 getting run off the road by some frickstick looking into their crotch as they check social media on their motherfricking phone.

I am, sadly, a worrier by nature...but I do tend to reserve those worries for things which are at least kind of worth worrying about.

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That's simply a TERRIBLE argument

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It wasn't an argument, and it obviously went straight over your head.

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There is nothing about my lifestyle, where I live, what I do that elevates me into a position to where I'm likely to be in need. I'm not immune, but I'm less likely than say your average drug dealer...

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Ok, Care to let everyone else know where this "safe bubble" is located?

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you're simply not going to fear monger me into thinking I NEED a gun for protection when I clearly do not.

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I'm not fear mongering. Just stating fact. No one needs a gun for protection, until you need it. I'm not telling you that you must get a firearm just trying to point out that you don't live in some weird bubble as you seem to think.

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Let's try it this way...do you wear a racing style helmet when driving? If not, why not? You are statistically FAR more likely to be hurt in an auto accident than you ever are in some form of shooting as a random citizen. It isn't even debatable. But...you don't wear one. Because it would look stupid, and be uncomfortable, and you take the risk of not wearing one even though as an intelligent person you know that driving is dangerous.

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Well I do wear a seat belt every time I ride in a vehicle. Is there some new research that shows everyone should wear helmets as well?

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It wasn't an argument, and it obviously went straight over your head.

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Ugh...

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Ok, Care to let everyone else know where this "safe bubble" is located?

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Youngsville. I'm literally shaking my head at the thought that some of you are this worried about living in America, in the safest time in history, when I'm sure most of you live in neighborhoods with HOA's.

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No one needs a gun for protection, until you need i

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Well, yeah. But isn't that what we're talking about here...risk assessment? You have done the math and seem to think that your risk warrants owning a firearm for protection. I've done the math and come to the conclusion I don't need one. But suggesting that since my risk is not 0% therefore I AM AT risk is just not being intellectually honest.

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Well I do wear a seat belt every time I ride in a vehicle. Is there some new research that shows everyone should wear helmets as well?

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I mean...if you need me to explain why head protection in auto accidents would be beneficial I'm not certain there's anything more to discuss with you. NASCAR drivers aren't wearing them simply to have more ad space after all...

So, since we're going to assume you actually do understand that a helmet would make you safer and you're at a much greater risk of being in an auto accident than being the victim of some random crime, why not wear the helmet? It's certainly better to wear it and not need it than not wear it and wish you had...right?

The answer is simple...because you don't want to. You've decided that it's not worth the hassle of it all.

What I'm telling you is that I've done the same thing with owning a firearm. I don't dislike them, support everyone's right to own them, etc...I've simply done the risk assessment and concluded that it's not worth the hassle, investment, etc to own a tool I'd almost certainly never ever need.

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NASCAR drivers aren't wearing them simply to have more ad space after all...

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NASCAR drivers are driving at over 200mph. That is a poor argument. If I was driving a car at over 200mph would I be wearing a helmet? You bet your arse I would be.

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So, since we're going to assume you actually do understand that a helmet would make you safer and you're at a much greater risk of being in an auto accident than being the victim of some random crime, why not wear the helmet? It's certainly better to wear it and not need it than not wear it and wish you had...right?

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Just because you are in an auto accident doesn't mean that a helmet would help. I have been in 3 in my life. 2 were fender benders and 1 was somewhat major (totaled truck). I didn't get a scratch on me in either case.

However, if you are ever in a situation where someone threatens your life one of the few things that will help you is a firearm. Can a knife sure, but with limitations. Can calling the cops sure, if you have time to wait for them to show up.

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I understand your side and posted the same in relation to having lived in other places, but this is absolutely a valid worry in any part of Baton Rouge.

As I've stated, pretty much everyone I know in BR has had their home, car, or garage burglarized. A bunch of those caught the people in the act and the person ran; however, I would wonder if it had been women that turned the outdoor lights on, if they would have ran.

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Which is why earlier on this page I had written this...

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I mean...you may actually be, or you may actually live somewhere where this might actually be a valid concern. If so, I get it and you're right to be worried.

In my case, this never crosses my mind...ever. We sleep with the windows open in the spring and fall. In 12 years of living where we do, the most that's ever happened has been the occasional neighborhood kid breaking into an unlocked vehicle parked in the driveway and taking shite.

You know the kind of shite I worry about? My wife who has to drive 30 minutes to and from work on I-49 getting run off the road by some frickstick looking into their crotch as they check social media on their motherfricking phone.

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Again...it goes back to risk assessment I think. If you are at risk enough for something bad, then prudent steps to help prevent that thing are warranted. This is one of those things. But all I can do is answer the OP's question from my personal perspective, and from it all I can say is that there has never been one incident outside of traveling somewhere and maybe getting a slightly uneasy feeling having turned down the wrong street, etc where I have ever felt worried for my personal safety. I've certainly never felt worry about my safety at home or anywhere near where I live, work, play, etc.

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NASCAR drivers are driving at over 200mph. That is a poor argument.

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Ok...so being in a crash that could be life threatening for a driver would see no benefit from wearing a helmet?

Got it...

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However, if you are ever in a situation where someone threatens your life one of the few things that will help you is a firearm.

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Is ANYONE arguing against this point?

One last try...given my risk of being the victim of some crime where my life is threatened is incredibly low, I'm not interested in being armed just in case. I just don't like guns enough to have a tool on me or near me at all times that I'm almost certain I'll never need.

There are a metric shite ton of far greater risks to my safety that warrant my attention than does criminal violence, and even many of them don't rise to the level of me needing to change my behavior in a way so as to be ready to protect myself.

I'm not quite sure why I'm the focus of your attention here. I'm on your side, at least where it counts. The fact that I don't personally have any desire to own a firearm does not make my support of your right to do so any less.

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Ok...so being in a crash that could be life threatening for a driver would see no benefit from wearing a helmet?
Got it...

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in case you missed it

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If I was driving a car at over 200mph would I be wearing a helmet? You bet your arse I would be.

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I'm not quite sure why I'm the focus of your attention here.

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I just found your first post weird. Seemed to me that you were saying you haven't had your life threatened to this point in your life so don't see a need for a firearm. However, if your life was threatened you might rethink it. Maybe I took that the wrong way, if so my bad.

It's truly bizarre and pathetic how some people on this board HAVE TO convince somebody else that they really, really, REALLY NEED a gun. That they can't simply accept the idea that "I don't have a problem with guns, but I don't personally want or need one."

You fricking tiny-dicked morons are the exact stereotype that is used to push the anti-gun rhetoric in this country every day.

Your analogy is spot on, GeauxTigerTM. Where's the nonstop badgering of people who aren't wearing seatbelts? Getting HIV tests? Drinking and driving? Smoking cigarettes? It's a personal choice, you dumbasses.

I own probably 20 firearms - pistols, shotguns, rifles - and I'll put a fricking hole in your head if you break into my house and I'm threatened.

But goddamn, some of you are dense as frick.

Nah....I live in Santa Barbara. If I ever felt like I needed a gun, I'd move.

I'm not a fan of guns.....toI much of a wildcard for me.