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re: Question for attorneys or other knowledgeable people regarding squatters
Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:02 pm to Robin Masters
Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:02 pm to Robin Masters
If the squatters can’t identify the assailants what kind a case do you have I suggest doing it around 4 am
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:09 pm to Robin Masters
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you already have an agreement with someone that supersedes the fake one the squatters present that should give the sheriff enough proof to evict the squatters.
Record the lease in the RE records too, so you have a time-stamp.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:25 pm to Robin Masters
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My mom has a cottage on Lake Michigan that doesn’t get used much which is why I’m asking.
Secure all the windows and doors. Pay for a quality security system, preferably monitored and with exterior cameras that are cloud-based. The key is being able to react immediately to the initial break-in and showing it was a break-in. The timely response of the police will not give them time to fix the evidence of the break-in and replace the locks on the doors. The exterior cameras should be able to prove the break-in as well. If there is clear evidence of a break-in it will go a long way in most jurisdictions to avoiding it ever becoming a landlord-tenant issue. These are merely basic tips and their effectiveness would be heavily impacted by jurisdictional laws.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's illegal to point a gun at someone and threaten to shoot them and make them do something. Could be considered aggravated kidnapping if not agg assault with a firearm.
He said, she said
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Now you're up to possibly 2nd degree murder.
Lmao. Not when their fingerprints are all over a another one of my guns or even a knife.
Case closed, no more squatter.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:57 pm to KemoSabe65
Exactly. That’s how a squatter should be handled. Let the Wooley Swamp take care of the trash.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 4:02 pm to Robin Masters
As other posters have mentioned, it all depends on your location. In my area, the local sheriff will throw the squatters out like a shitty diaper. In leftist areas it might take years to get rid of them no matter what kind of agreement you have in place.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 4:17 pm to Robin Masters
How would a lease supersede a squatter if a deed doesn’t. That makes little sense. The hired squatter roommate would work.
Also, they often have proof they live there by utilities or mail in their name.
Also, they often have proof they live there by utilities or mail in their name.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 4:31 pm to Robin Masters
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My mom has a cottage on Lake Michigan that doesn’t get used much which is why I’m asking.
Squatting is very jurisdiction-specific. In Alabama, for example, the laws don't look to favorably on squatters. In Chicago, which does have frontage on Lake Michigan, the laws are very pro-squatters. If I were you, I'd look up which state you are in (IL, IN, MI, or WI) and their squatter laws. I assume Indiana is pretty anti-squatter although some local juridictions in NW Indiana are lefty and may surprise you. Michigan and Wisconsin are probably middle of the road on this issue.
Look it up. State, city, county.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 4:58 pm to Obtuse1
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Secure all the windows and doors. Pay for a quality security system, preferably monitored and with exterior cameras that are cloud-based. The key is being able to react immediately to the initial break-in and showing it was a break-in. The timely response of the police will not give them time to fix the evidence of the break-in and replace the locks on the doors. The exterior cameras should be able to prove the break-in as well. If there is clear evidence of a break-in it will go a long way in most jurisdictions to avoiding it ever becoming a landlord-tenant issue. These are merely basic tips and their effectiveness would be heavily impacted by jurisdictional laws.
Good ideas. Thanks!
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:08 pm to Robin Masters
Install front door backwards so hinges are on the outside.
Just remove the door if someone doesn’t pay rent or the place is taken over by squatters.
See how long they last with no door.
Just remove the door if someone doesn’t pay rent or the place is taken over by squatters.
See how long they last with no door.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Is the last person I would listen to regarding legal advice.
Or any advice at all
My suggestion for the OP is to ask a real lawyer
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:15 pm to Rust Cohle
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Also, they often have proof they live there by utilities or mail in their name.
In my municipality they won't put utilities in your name without a deed recorded with the clerk of court or a notarized rental agreement. You may be able to phony up a lease but getting someone to notarize it is a different pot of crawfish.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:22 pm to Robin Masters
Find a Bandido, give him $500, no more squatter problem
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:34 pm to Rust Cohle
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Also, they often have proof they live there by utilities or mail in their name
They often also have a fake lease which is presented to police, then it becomes a “civil matter” and they stay out of it.
The more sophisticated squatters get a DL with the address then it gets tougher.
Many courts are extremely tenant friendly and will continually delay eviction and will come down hard on the “landlord” for harassment and discrimination.
It’s ABSOLUTELY BULLS%#T but in many areas, it can be a nightmare.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:47 pm to Boston911
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Find a Bandido, give him $500, no more squatter problem
But then you gotta get the Bandido out.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:50 pm to Klondikekajun
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They often also have a fake lease which is presented to police, then it becomes a “civil matter” and they stay out of it.
The more sophisticated squatters get a DL with the address then it gets tougher.
Many courts are extremely tenant friendly and will continually delay eviction and will come down hard on the “landlord” for harassment and discrimination.
It’s ABSOLUTELY BULLS%#T but in many areas, it can be a nightmare.
I'd get sophisticated too. I would become a squatters worst nightmare.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 6:34 pm to Boston911
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Find a Bandido, give him $500, no more squatter problem
But then you have a Bandido problem.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 6:43 pm to Robin Masters
I’ll tell you what, when you think like that you will be arrested.
Fact is it’s your word vs theirs and someone being in your house illegally and you find them chances are they swing at your first.
Wink
Fact is it’s your word vs theirs and someone being in your house illegally and you find them chances are they swing at your first.
Wink
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What would yo do if a random LEO came to your door and demanded to see a copy of your mortgage/lease?
Do they need some sort of warrant that compels me to show this document?
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What would yo do if a random LEO came to your door and demanded to see a copy of your mortgage/lease?
Refer him to the Assessor’s website so that he can see for himself who owns the property and has been paying property taxes.
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