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re: Qantas cancels orders for Airbus A380
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:24 pm to redstick13
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:24 pm to redstick13
Read the other Emirates might also be wanting to swap their order of A380s out with a different plan. This would be the end of that plane.
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:54 pm to HeyCap
4 engine market is mostly dead. A twin engine can do everything you need. The 777X is Boeing’s response to the death of the 747. They can pack 400 in a 777-9x.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:59 pm to 777Tiger
Max is that you?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:25 pm to redstick13
Qatar Airways is replacing their 380s with the 777X in the next few years.
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The 777X will replace the A380 on routes, including to Australia” Al Baker exclusively revealed to Aviation Analyst.
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:30 pm to redstick13
So what's their competitor for the 777/787?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:31 pm to upgrayedd
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what's their competitor for the 777/787?
they don't have anything, they got their market share by giving away airplanes
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:33 pm to redstick13
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Doubts about the future of the Airbus A380 have grown after yet another airline canceled an order for the superjumbo jet. Australia's Qantas (QABSY) said Thursday that it had scrapped longstanding plans to buy eight more of the double-decker planes. The A380 has been a major disappointment for Airbus (EADSF), racking up less than a quarter of the sales the European company forecast when it first introduced the giant jetliner more than a decade ago. The underwhelming demand has fueled questions about how long the manufacturer can justify continuing production of the iconic aircraft. Airlines like Qantas have shifted their interest to lighter, more fuel efficient passenger jets.
#Boeing #Merica #Dreamliner etc, etc.
I remember at the time people were questioning Boeing's strategy. Well played execs, well played
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:35 pm to jcaz
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They can pack 400 in a 777-9x.
...and fly n/s from LHR-SYD
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:36 pm to OchoDedos
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They can pack 400 in a 777-9x.
could get more than that but long haul flights not typically configured for high density seating
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:37 pm to 777Tiger
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they don't have anything, they got their market share by giving away airplanes
They don't have a skunkworks dept or anything?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:40 pm to upgrayedd
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They don't have a skunkworks dept or anything?
it's a consortium of UK, Germany, and France, or at least that's the way they began, their product is vastly inferior to Boeing
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:44 pm to 777Tiger
Saw a show on their final assembly facility in Toulouse. They haul huge chunks of the plane by truck through a narrow corridor in the middle of town to get to the plant. It's the most inefficient thing I've ever seen. It almost looks like something that would happen in LA 
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:45 pm to upgrayedd
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They haul huge chunks of the plane by truck through a narrow corridor in the middle of town to get to the plant.
they also ship large fuselage parts in canals by barge to assembly plants
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:46 pm to 777Tiger
So what makes it so inferior to Boeing?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:51 pm to upgrayedd
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So what makes it so inferior to Boeing?
inefficient wing, poor power to weight, flight management system is like a Tandy 1000 compared to the Honeywell used on Boeing, it's really dumbed down and that it was designed for "certain" markets really reflects that, was designed more or less to "protect" itself from (inexperienced, poorly trained,)pilots
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:55 pm to 777Tiger
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was designed more or less to "protect" itself from (inexperienced, poorly trained,)pilots
By using independently operated joysticks?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:57 pm to upgrayedd
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By using independently operated joysticks?
no, it's fly by wire, everything in the cockpit is basically a computer mouse, and each stick has a take over push button to take control from the other pilot
Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:01 pm to 777Tiger
I thought one of the issues with the AirFrance crash was the two joysticks were cancelling each other out
Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:03 pm to upgrayedd
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I thought one of the issues with the AirFrance crash was the two joysticks were cancelling each other out
that was only part of the problem, the stick inputs add each other algebraically to an extent, which means that if they are moved in opposite directions simultaneously they will null each other out
Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:30 pm to 777Tiger
So are Boeing and Airbus the only real players in the game these days?
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