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re: Qantas cancels orders for Airbus A380

Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:59 pm to
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On a weekend baw? Are you crazy?


Haha, no. I have multiple days off.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:46 pm to
Qantas is actually cancelling orders for a further 8 A380s, as they currently have 12 in their fleet.

Emirates will eventually have 162 A380s in their fleet. The later orders will have updated engines.

In the end, Airbus is as much to blame for the gloomy outlook of the A380 as Boeing is. The A350 which is the competitor of the 787 is an excellent aircraft and a huge seller in the twin-aisle, super efficient/long range twin engine market. Airbus is also selling the A330NEO which also hurts the SuperJumbo.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25320 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:15 am to
Did a Finance case on this in business school. The A380 case never made sense in even the most favorable scenarios.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 2:03 am to
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Did a Finance case on this in business school. The A380 case never made sense in even the most favorable scenarios.


I believe this to be true, today. I also think 9/11 was a blow to the A380 program. Things could have been different, at least in terms of interest and in the initial phase of orders had the downturn of global air travel not changed airline growth projections. But ultimately, the aircraft was too impractical for use, outside of the heaviest point to point destinations.

The outlier is Emirates, which has monstrous financial backing that other airlines don't have. They can fly the A380 in markets that turn borderline profit margins, or even operate at a loss, just to get the competitive advantage by offering a superior product. They have enough money to burn money. At least for now.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 2:07 am
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2595 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:54 am to
And it ends in 2020
Airbus announced its dead, Emirates cancelled some orders also
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:01 am to
Boeing needs to stop being lazy AF and announce the 797 or Airbus is going to whip their asses with the A321LR.

The market is there for a return of the 757 or if they prefer, the 797.
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