re: Putting gas in car sucks man

300k is a lot of drive. I’m not sure if an average driver could have accomplished that yet since Tesla’s are so new. I’ve seen plenty past 150k

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to get one from point A to point B with a high probability of reliability. That is ALL I would own either one for, to commute. I would not drive one for any other reason on a dare

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It's strictly a commuter vehicle for me as well. We are heading to Birmingham in a few months, and we are considering taking our Model 3 to see how well the commute goes. We are curious, and this isn't a trip that has any time constraints to it. I hear the Tesla charging map is well laid out and makes long trips palatable. I refuse to do a trip that requires all the other charging stations, but if this one has Tesla chargers on the route then we will give it a go.

I fully expect to be disappointed, but maybe it will shock me into a moderate believer.

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300k is a lot of drive. I’m not sure if an average driver could have accomplished that yet since Tesla’s are so new. I’ve seen plenty past 150k

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There's a handful of mules that are that high, all Gen 1. But you're correct that there's limited data on that. Luckily, there are a ton of PowerWalls out there that we use as a proxy.

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This is a study based on real world data compiled from Tesla computers. Of course as notated in the article Tesla did admit to removing all battery replacements from the data provided. So best case numbers back up Musks claim of only "12-15%" degradation still shows roughly 18% degradation.

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I find most of the user data to be so riddled with bias that it's hard to get any clarity. For example, people who monitor degradation and provide the data are typically high range anxiety people. I have yet to see a one that gets close to the independent engineers reports I get.

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I'm sure you are on forums where the numbers are great,

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This is the only forum i discuss this on. I get all my data from DNV or directly from the Tesla data repository.

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Putting gas in car sucks man

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15 minutes of your time a week is really something to complain about. STFU and get your husband to do it

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I can see why people don’t go back after getting an EV. $90 down the drain and have to consistently find gas stations weekly Jesus. With a Tesla just go home and forget it.

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I can see why people don’t go back after getting an EV. $90 down the drain and have to consistently find gas stations weekly Jesus. With a Tesla just go home and forget it.

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Maybe the certain demographic of The Woodlands parents are hardier stock than are you and don’t mind putting gas in their cars once a week.

No wonder your kids can’t compete with their kids.

Face it: they’re better than you and you know it and are you are running away from them.

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I filled my mom's Honda Accord for $30

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I did some serious filling for your Mom for free.

Just saying.

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I have had a lot of dealings with 'The Norwegian Truth' across many different industries. This is a company known to have biases that appeal to decisions by the Norwegian government. While a leading class organization due to their adaptions they are far from infallible and I've seen firsthand their biases across industries that have had negative impacts on said industries when they refuse to admit or walkback their biases. They instead find a way to place blame on other factors and pass blame to the end user for the variance and away from themselves and other governing bodies.

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My engagements with them are pretty tight once i get past the initial process reviews. All the ongoing is just straight fleet data analysis. They have some PMs that let their opinions get in the way, but the ones I've settled on working with are pretty straight forward and give me the analysis without any fluff, which I enjoy.

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Assuming this is unfiltered data, then it may very well be the best source.

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Everything i do myself is unfiltered, the logs we provide to DNV have to be filtered because the payloads are too big but when we're rolling up intervals or smoothing signals, I'm careful not to screw with the BESS health data because it's the most important one. For example, i'll leave the battery data at the 5 second intervals, but move airbag deployment to daily.

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From observation I have seen the truth for Tesla to be somewhere between industry norm and Musk's outlandish claims. Still best in class, but falling short of his hyperbolic claims in interviews.

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I basically don't listen to anything Elon says about anything. His own people are always confused by him and it's not even always a more sunshine pumper take, he goes the wrong way one things all the time, especially more technical issues where he's clearly out of his wheelhouse.

Two funny stories about him from my Tesla dealings, he joined me and some guys from JPM on a tour of Giga in Sparks and fumbled his way through how the PowerWall 1 and 2 were different while the head of their residential division sat there mortified by the contradictions from what he had just told us. Then week before last, I was on a PowerWall API call and he jumped in the call for about 5 minutes to personally tell NextEra to go frick themselves. He's an odd dude.