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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5950 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:17 am to
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And he lowers the gun to avoid shooting him in the face or chest...that actually seems like more of an argument for self-defense as well. Why is shooting him in the leg dumb IYO?


If deadly force is justified, then apply deadly force. Calmly aiming down to a leg (as though that’s less deadly, there’s still a femoral artery there…) instead of backing up away from the dude isn’t exactly the strongest argument for reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.

I don’t know what started the encounter, but I wouldn’t want to be defending myself against criminal and civil charges with video of me just standing there for all those seconds and not showing the slightest effort to deescalate, back up, etc.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24142 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:19 am to
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beret


thats a flat cap.

Motherfricker got shot courtesy of the peaky fricking blinders.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20893 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:20 am to
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I don’t know what started the encounter, but I wouldn’t want to be defending myself against criminal and civil charges with video of me just standing there for all those seconds and not showing the slightest effort to deescalate, back up, etc.


He kept the gun by his side multiple times until the guy started to move on him. Depending on what state this was, he may not have had a duty to retreat.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3857 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:20 am to
What? The dipshit took his jacket off and advanced at the guy, how on earth wouldn’t it be a good shoot?

The shootee is a stupid SOB and lucky to still be alive.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
21680 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:20 am to
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I guess it boils down to where this happened


Sadly it absolutely does.

quote:

Why is shooting him in the leg dumb IYO?


Dead men tell no tales.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14823 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:21 am to
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oldie but a goodie

That scene was totally ad libbed. Ford had the flu or something and didn't feel like going through the choreographed fight scene that was scripted. So he just pulled his pistol and shot it...the other actor went with it and fell down. And then the reaction of the crowd was hilarious.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153657 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:22 am to
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If deadly force is justified, then apply deadly force. Calmly aiming down to a leg (as though that’s less deadly, there’s still a femoral artery there…) instead of backing up away from the dude isn’t exactly the strongest argument for reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.

Nobody is saying that it's impossible to die from a shot in the leg. But are you arguing that shooting someone in the leg is not "less deadly" than shooting them in the chest or face?
quote:

video of me just standing there for all those seconds and not showing the slightest effort to deescalate



Not the slightest effort to deescalate? Dude backed up a few steps, pulled a gun on that lunatic, and told him multiple times to "get down." And only shot him once he was more aggressive (shirt off) and got to within like two feet of him with threats of bodily harm.

We didn't watch the same video apparently.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
7222 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:23 am to
Who hangs their shirt up first? Throw it down on the ground like a real man and rush that fool! Just remember to Serpentine
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 11:59 am
Posted by ThatBaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2023
288 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:24 am to
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Why is shooting him in the leg dumb IYO?


Shooting in the leg is difficult, first of all. Less surface area, like trying to shoot a broomstick vs a broom head. Missing a target in a self defense scenario also increases the hazard behind the target, in this case is a neighborhood.

Secondly, stopping power. Center mass shots will stop an attacker from advancing much more often as it either disables the victim or shocks them.

If my life was in danger, I wouldn't take the chance.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11761 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:25 am to
it's probably fake like 95% of what the propaganda account named John Barron posts
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6815 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:26 am to
Did he shoot him in the dick?
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18130 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:34 am to
the guy that got shot has me cracking up over here.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1929 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:34 am to
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What more reason does he need?

A mortal threat. He shot an unarmed man. Why didn't he just fight him?

They both come off like a couple of pussies.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6386 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:37 am to

This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 11:40 am
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5950 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:37 am to
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Not the slightest effort to deescalate? Dude backed up a few steps, pulled a gun on that lunatic, and told him multiple times to "get down." And only shot him once he was more aggressive (shirt off) and got to within like two feet of him with threats of bodily harm.


None of this is untrue. However, the scenario I imagine is the prosecutor, or the plaintiff attorney, asking why the shooter felt the need to stand there in defense of that little square of concrete. What did he plan to do, force the man to lay on the ground and hold him at gunpoint? Make him beg for forgiveness for wanting to fight him? Why did he stop there and not continue backing up? Just because he had a “right” not to back down? If he wasn’t in fear enough for his life to shoot center mass, why was a shot in the leg a better choice than another step, or many steps, backwards, while the guy was taking off his shirt?

If I shoot someone, I don’t want there to be any question as to whether I did everything I could to avoid pulling that trigger.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
20490 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:38 am to
Yeooowwwwww
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LMAOOOOOO
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
5281 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:39 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86428 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:40 am to
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If deadly force is justified, then apply deadly force. Calmly aiming down to a leg (as though that’s less deadly, there’s still a femoral artery there…) instead of backing up away from the dude isn’t exactly the strongest argument for reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.



For the sake of the shooter, he better hope you're not on his jury
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69519 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:41 am to
there is no situation or line in the sand some of you OT Centrist contrarian’s won’t cross.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
12685 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:44 am to
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I don’t know what started the encounter, but I wouldn’t want to be defending myself against criminal and civil charges with video of me just standing there for all those seconds and not showing the slightest effort to deescalate, back up, etc.
Apparently, you have never heard of "Stand you ground" laws. States that have that legislation, do not require citizens to retreat from a threat. As it should be!
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