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re: Push Back from Cell Phone plan in public schools.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:41 pm to jmarto1
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:41 pm to jmarto1
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You definitely have to inconvenience the parents because that is the only way many will care.
Shitty parents know schools have no teeth. I've heard of many parents dropping off their kids who were supposed to be suspended and then being "unreachable". Kids go back to class like nothing happened. Those parents would probably encourage their kids to get detention if it means they were away from home longer. Probably demand that the school feeds them too.
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:54 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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We had cellphones with us in the event that we needed to call our parents after school in case of an emergency or if theres a sudden change in your afternoon plans
We didn’t have cell phones back in the late seventies and we never had a problem getting in touch with whoever we needed to get in contact with. All you needed to do was go to the office or if it were after hours there were always someone on the school grounds that could get you to a phone if you needed to call someone.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:05 pm to jmarto1
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You definitely have to inconvenience the parents because that is the only way many will care.
That opens a completely different can of worms. Any inconvenience to parents is immediately met with excuses, lies, and phone calls or trips to the district central office. We’ve flirted with after or before school detention for years. We can’t do it. Too many claim (largely lies) that they don’t have transportation to get them to and from detention. As a school, you don’t get support on these issues from above, and what could be effective policies are abandoned.
As someone said, the schools have no teeth anymore when it comes to discipline issues, and the parents know it. Far too many take full advantage of it, but will also complain about the schools vehemently when it benefits them.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:13 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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We had cellphones with us in the event that we needed to call our parents after school in case of an emergency or if theres a sudden change in your afternoon plans.
My kid's private school calls us for any issues/emergencies. If any last minute extracurricular activity change happens, we get contacted directly by the organizer. The school has a zero tolerance policy for screen time at school, and they'll actually kick you out. There's a waiting list to get in, so they don't care about losing a customer.
Kids spend enough time on these devices outside of school. I firmly believe that inside the school, smart phones should not be in use, at all, not even during recess.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:20 pm to deeprig9
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Kids spend enough time on these devices outside of school. I firmly believe that inside the school, smart phones should not be in use, at all, not even during recess.
I agree. Unfortunately, the kids and many parents view their phones as being tethered to their existence.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:23 pm to High C
What a sign of the times; people are so fricking stupid that they think their kids need cell phones in school.
I hate religion, but the idiocy of modern public schools, especially in my urban setting, has driven my kids into the arms of a known pedophile ring. It is that bad.
I hate religion, but the idiocy of modern public schools, especially in my urban setting, has driven my kids into the arms of a known pedophile ring. It is that bad.
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:24 pm to Hellp
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Current teacher Craig Bilbrew believes that as long as the law is followed like any other setting, there shouldn't be a problem.
"If the law says that the children can't have cellphones and they have a cellphone regardless of what parents say, you tell them what the rules are. If the sign on the door says 'no shirt, no shoes, no service', I don't put my shoes on expecting to get served," Bilbrew said.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:29 pm to High C
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That opens a completely different can of worms. Any inconvenience to parents is immediately met with excuses, lies, and phone calls or trips to the district central office. We’ve flirted with after or before school detention for years. We can’t do it.
Keep the phone until the parent retrieves it. If it happens again, send it to the superintendent's office. If the parent doesn't show within a time period, turn it over to the police. Who knows, maybe they will find evidence of a crime.
Do something. If it doesn't work, try something else.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:39 pm to Hellp
If you’re in a small rural area then there’s no need for cell phones
Then again I wouldn’t trust most public schools to contact me if my kiddo needed to be urgently picked up from school
Then again I wouldn’t trust most public schools to contact me if my kiddo needed to be urgently picked up from school
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:39 pm to Hellp
Phones should be turned in at the door at every school. I know if we had had smartphones when I was in high school, they would have been a massive distraction. I mean shite, we got a kick out of making calculators spell "BOOBS".
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:39 pm to Hellp
Omg. Kids will not die without phones for a few hours. My son, which is 14, got punished off his phone a year and a half ago, for doing stuff he shouldn't be doing. Granted, he was punished off his phone and other electronics for around 6 months. When it came time to give him his phone back and let him have social media again, he declined and said "I like my life better without all of that stuff." And never took it back, matter of fact he even said the same thing about an hr ago.
If he needs to talk to me, he goes to the office and calls me. I know weird concept.
I don't wanna hear from you when your at school, nor should I period. If your not sick or hurt leave me alone, your there to learn.
And when they get introuble in school, your a$$ is grass, until I hear the whole story and we will go from there.
If he needs to talk to me, he goes to the office and calls me. I know weird concept.
I don't wanna hear from you when your at school, nor should I period. If your not sick or hurt leave me alone, your there to learn.
And when they get introuble in school, your a$$ is grass, until I hear the whole story and we will go from there.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:40 pm to Blutarsky
Easier to trust staff back then
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:48 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Except for the fact A/C actually enhances the learning environment and cellphone usage detracts from it, your analogy was spot on. Crackerjack logic right there
yeah, that was the point I was trying to make LOL
just saying that times change and because you lived without something before does not mean you want to now.
are you for banning phones by the adults as well?
I agree, phones can be a problem if not managed properly. When I was a kid on school we had marbles, yo yo, and tops but those were not allowed in class.
You are asking for tons of push back if you try to make it so that kids cannot connect with parents. It is laughable to tell them to go use the office phone.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:51 pm to Hellp
Plans or bans?
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:52 pm to Midget Death Squad
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What a stupid comparison
use any comparison you like.
people used to do without many things is that your argument that they are needed today?
that is the point, not that ac and phones are alike. just that LA is hot and people used to go to school without ac, now they have ac. but according to you, they used to go without it, they can go without it again, while at school.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:53 pm to Zzyzx
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lol. honestly it’s just laughable how delusional and out of touch most everyone in this thread is.
I think most of this thread either has very old children, no children, children too young for school, and again delusional.
Your kid won’t always be able to get to their locker if there’s an emergency.
To clarify (if it makes a difference) It’s not phones anymore for the most part. It’s watches, like apple watches, that can make calls.
I even know a handful of kindergarten parents that send their kid to school with a watch.
3rd/4th is usually when most of the kids start to have it though. There’s literally not one 4th grade student that doesn’t have a watch to make phone calls at our local school. That’s not an exaggeration, it is a fact. Not a single 4th grader.
Not that I care what anyone decides for their only kids and devices, do whatever you want. Like I said tho, I think most of you are just out of touch on this by a mile.
It’s just a different world now.
Do you not see a problem with this?
There are plenty of schools (private and low tech schools) that don't allow it and somehow they aren't stacking bodies of dead kids.
There needs to be some pushback from constant connectivity. It's an epidemic.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:59 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:GTFO
Pretty dumb take here. We had cellphones with us in the event that we needed to call our parents after school in case of an emergency or if theres a sudden change in your afternoon plans. It's fine to have one. It becomes a problem when you are using it during school hours to distract yourself from class.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 2:04 pm to novabill
You just doubled down on stupid. Keep at it. We are all enjoying the show
Posted on 7/20/24 at 2:07 pm to rintintin
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There needs to be some pushback from constant connectivity. It's an epidemic.
It is, and it’s the reason the mental illness rates have been on a steep rise the last 10-15 years. Lazy parents give their children smartphones so that they don’t have to be parents, and the kids become damaged from them. It has to stop
Posted on 7/20/24 at 2:08 pm to Miketheseventh
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We didn’t have cell phones back in the late seventies and we never had a problem getting in touch with whoever we needed to get in contact with. All you needed to do was go to the office or if it were after hours there were always someone on the school grounds that could get you to a phone if you needed to call someone.
Kids today lack any critical thinking skills, so having them attempt to do this is almost certain disaster.
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