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re: Prosecutors say Marcellus Williams is innocent. He’s scheduled to be executed tonight.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:17 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:17 am to Aubie Spr96
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The VAST majority of people when asked would consider the gov't inept when it comes to doing things. Why we think they can effectively arbiter life and death is comical. I understand wanting the death penalty, but even being wrong ONE time makes it not worth it and there's NO WAY the gov't can get it right 100% of the time.
Did the gov't decide this, or a jury of his peers?
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:17 am to John88
Here's the real issue. Looks to me like the AG was out of his lane. If the prosecution and defense agree on a deal and that deal protects the public from any future issues, then this makes the AG an a-hole.
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At the time, Bell’s office cited testing that found Williams’ DNA was not on the murder weapon. Subsequent tests, however, revealed that the knife had been mishandled by law enforcement, making a potentially exonerating DNA test impossible. Williams, who has long maintained his innocence, subsequently reached a painful agreement with prosecutors. In return for pleading no contest to first-degree murder, he would receive a new sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. Unless Williams could find another way to prove his innocence, he would likely live out his days under lock and key. But he would avoid execution.
Judge Bruce Hilton and Gayle Picus’ family agreed to the deal. However, after lobbying from Andrew Bailey, the state’s Republican attorney general, the Missouri Supreme Court scrapped the agreement and ordered Hilton to conduct an evidentiary hearing.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:19 am to Ancient Astronaut
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So he was convicted purely off of circumstantial evidence???
That's not uncommon. Though it is becoming less common with the advances in DNA technology.
In many homicides you don't have an eyewitness. All you have is a dead person (who can't testify) and the person who killed them. It's also very common to NOT have a murder weapon available to investigators/DAs. So many times the way the case is built is you have a LOT of circumstantial evidence that when combined lead to a conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt that a particular person had to be the killer.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:19 am to Oates Mustache
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What does Marcellus Williams look like?
What?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:19 am to castorinho
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Yeah there's always more to the story. But the prosecution having second thoughts is weird as frick.
The prosecution works for the government and everybody that works for the government is a lib
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:20 am to TeddyPadillac
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Williams has a robust criminal history, including 15 felony convictions in addition to offenses related to Ms. Gayle's murder: robbery (2), armed criminal action (2), assault (2), burglary (4), stealing (3), stealing a motor vehicle, and unlawful use of a weapon
Carry on.
Should've got a needle long ago.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:23 am to John88
No one should be sentenced to die without concrete DNA/Forensic evidence that they committed murder.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:25 am to Kracka
The real story is why was a guy with 15 felony convictions walking the streets and even able to commit murder?
There are certain people that do not need to be living as free human beings on this earth and he's one of them.
There are certain people that do not need to be living as free human beings on this earth and he's one of them.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:27 am to John88
Has OT legal analyst SlowFlowPro reviewed the case? Would like to hear his analysis
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:27 am to SidetrackSilvera
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Used to be that stories like this always supplied the Last Meal Request.
As if a person who was going to be put to death couldnt do anymore damage, a couple of inmates took advantage of the last meal request and ordered a lot of food just to let it sit as a final act of defiance.
I believe Texas only issues a last meal from the kitchen in Huntsville.
Not sure about Mizzou.
Either way, prayers sent for this man.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:27 am to Jcorye1
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There has to be more to this, as shown seems slam dunk.
usually its not.. It is usually just legal processes and more time than some are willing to put in. Its not their son so it doesnt matter as much
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:29 am to John88
Don't trust your son with no backwoods southern lawyer
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:29 am to John88
I would love to know what more of the case there is for actual evidence.
Cause i know dang good and well, they are not about to give someone lethal injection and not have a shred of actual evidence.
Cause i know dang good and well, they are not about to give someone lethal injection and not have a shred of actual evidence.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:30 am to John88
Is this the guy from Pulp Fiction or the NFL TE?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:36 am to TeddyPadillac
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Williams has a robust criminal history, including 15 felony convictions in addition to offenses related to Ms. Gayle's murder: robbery (2), armed criminal action (2), assault (2), burglary (4), stealing (3), stealing a motor vehicle, and unlawful use of a weapon, which is all consistent with entering the home, attacking Ms. Gayle, and taking her items.
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When speaking with law enforcement, the jailhouse informant provided information about the crime that was not publicly available, yet consistent with crime scene evidence and Williams’ involvement.
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Williams sold Ms. Gayle’s husband’s laptop to another individual who later identified Williams as the seller.
This is pretty damning evidence that leads me to believe he did it or was heavily involved. I think he did it.
However, putting on the lawyer hat, this is evidence that he possessed her stolen property, and that he possibly knew details of her murder, it is not evidence of the actual murder.
Is this enough to sentence a man to death under our standards?
(Again, I think he killed her based on this)
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:54 am to John88
Is St Louis County the one with the soros DA or is that the city?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:56 am to Saintsisit
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What?
He...he... he's... he's.... BLACK
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:02 am to Pettifogger
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But executing some dude a quarter century after the crime (especially if there are doubts about it) when he might be a completely different person anyway and no family is going to get peace from it and no criminal activity will be deterred by it - hollow.
Watch interviews with family members of the deceased post execution. Especially in Texas. They are typically elated and it's a small repayment for the loss of their loved one.
Of course that isn't every case but I certainly would feel relieved that person is dead.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:04 am to castorinho
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Yeah there's always more to the story. But the prosecution having second thoughts is weird as frick.
At Louis prosecutors ain’t what they used to be.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:04 am to castorinho
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Even the office that prosecuted Williams, the St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office, has led the charge to free Williams from prison.
This is a little disingenuous.
Completely different elected prosecutor leading to get him cleared. And only because it's politically expedient because he's running for higher office.
The dude was guilty.
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