re: Proposed bill would give utility companies control of customer thermostats

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A lawmaker in Ohio

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Make their arse sit in an un-airconditioned house in South Louisiana August and they’ll change their tune

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State Rep. Roy Klopfenstein (R-Haviland)

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WTF? He needs to be stripped of his R status.

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I completely get it, and I have no issue with people being opposed to this kind of legislation. My pushback is that OP, whether intentionally or not, frames this as an escalation, as though it would be mandatory when previous examples were opt in. When the reality is that this is just the same opt in scheme that already exists in a host of places and isn't this week's sign of the apocalypse.

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Thanks for the clarification! Very different scenario than the OP alleged.

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Thanks for the clarification! Very different scenario than the OP alleged.

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This happens a lot on forums, and the issue is it usually doesn't get corrected until after the first page and a large percentage of people only read the first page. It is like when people in the past formed opinions based on newspaper headlines and never bothered to read the article.

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It’s reached the point that people desperately want to be outraged and will resent you for robbing them of it

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This should be the PT slogan.

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It’s reached the point that people desperately want to be outraged and will resent you for robbing them of it

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We all love our first hit of "outrage porn" to get the day going.

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It is all about the dopamine. While there is no conclusive evidence that anger produces more than happiness, anger is a more empowered state of feeling. Add to that the world is often easier to find stimuli that angers vs stimuli that produces happiness and we are off to the races. In the present case, anger is the only strong emotion for most people. Being an innocuous opt-in situation doesn't produce happiness in most so you did indeed rob them of part of their dopamine high.

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Yup yup. It’s something I noticed with political discourse, which is why I mostly avoid it these days, at least within the context of current events. I’ve had friends/coworkers/relatives breathlessly tell me some horrific thing the opposite political persuasion was doing/had done, do a quick google search and come back “hey, good news, it isn’t actually going down like that” and while it was never surprising that they would argue with me, what did surprise me was, when they would have to concede the matter, just how upset they were about it. In a vacuum, they should be happy this bad thing isn’t happening. But they aren’t happy; they are deeply, deeply upset that it isn’t.

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Just wait till these data centers go live.

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That's my current rabbit hole, and the AI data center's future needs for power make EVs a drop in the bucket. The possible good news is their ability to shift the Overton window and their thirst for nuclear appears like it will change the rocky road nuclear has had in the recent past.

Also EV demand is mainly in off-peak hours where AI data centers are a 24/7/365 demand.

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just like Texas

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If it makes you feel any better, I said "frick that" back then as well.

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heir thirst for nuclear appears like it will change the rocky road nuclear has had in the recent past.

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need provides innovation. better nuclear will result

nuclear is the only thing that answers all the questions about availability and sustainability. that industry needs innovation, particularly with regard to fuel and spent fuel