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re: Property values in NOLA/East fixing to PLUMMET...Sec 8 may be cut to 2 years

Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:35 pm to
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I'm talking about real estate value. you're talking about quality of life.


You have trouble reading?

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In your experience, does section 8 housing generate more or less value to homes within the surrounding area?
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Maybe this will allow for more gentrification, that could be a positive I suppose.


This type of statement can get you banned from r/NewOrleans.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Are you totally retarded or just half retarded?


I've asked 2 questions. Feel free to answer them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Payments from whom to what entity?

From fedgov to the landlord (whatever type of entity that may be)
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56710 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:38 pm to
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From fedgov to the landlord (whatever type of entity that may be)


And generally speaking, what is your guess of how much a section 8 landlord reinvests to the surrounding community?

I'm assuming you've seen section 8 housing before.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:38 pm to
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How would that reduce property values?


Have you ever seen an apartment after a Sec 8'r moves out? If one gets evicted, they destroy EVERYTHING in their path out the door - walls, plumbing, electrical, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:42 pm to
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And generally speaking, what is your guess of how much a section 8 landlord reinvests to the surrounding community?

I'm assuming you've seen section 8 housing before.


You're trying to be Socratic in order to avoid having a point be ripped up, and I'll explain to you the flaw in your logic. The tenants are the issue and they're not going anywhere (especially since this is a federal issue). They will still need housing and they certainly won't be moving into higher-end areas. This means the slummy Section 8 housing will still cater to the population, but with lower rents and cap rates.

Whatever investment the landlords do now will be less with less revenue, tighter margins, and lower property values.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:50 pm to
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This type of statement can get you banned from r/NewOrleans.



jokes on them. I already am.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:51 pm to
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You serious?

This is going to remove the payments from circulation.

That is going to make rents decrease

Rents decreasing will be directly reflected in the underlying value of the property.


OK sure. That would reduce property values temporarily. What could be the result of less desirable neighbors no longer being afford to live in those neighborhoods? Couldn't that cause an increase in people moving into those neighborhoods and revitalizing the properties?

Of course, they'll be accused of "gentrification," as has happened in some areas of Birmingham, but I predict that this will result in increased property values over time.
Posted by terriblegreen
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:53 pm to
Collis Temple Sr bout to be pissed.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18772 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:59 pm to
Reduce property values in shithole areas? Gentrification gonna eat.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24960 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:04 pm to
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How would that reduce property values?


Because a high percentage of homes in low income areas are rental properties that have section 8 tenants.

A 2 year cap on receiving section 8 means that there's going to be a lot less people in the program. Less section 8 tenants = less demand for rental units. Less demand for those rental units means that the landlords will have properties sitting vacant more often and will probably have to lower their rent to attract renters who don't qualify for section 8.

Basically the 2 year cap on section 8 is going to hit the pocketbooks of landlords who rent their properties through section 8. So in turn, the market value of those kinds of properties will drop because they're not as attractive of an investment anymore.


ETA: and according to a buddy who had a rental probably 15-20 years ago that he had leased to section 8 tenants, he said that he preferred section 8 tenants to non-section 8 tenants. First because he didn't have to put up with bullshite excuses from tenants who didn't have the rent money when it was due. He said the rent check from the government was never late. Second, he said that the section 8 tenants actually took pretty good care of the place because if they trashed the house, landlords can report it to the section 8 office and the tenant can get kicked out of the section 8 program.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:05 pm to
disabilities are about to skyrocket.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:06 pm to
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What could be the result of less desirable neighbors no longer being afford to live in those neighborhoods?

Where do you think they're going to go, exactly?

Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14330 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
So what does that have to do with property values? There is a waiting list, always. No landlord would be without a tenant...If anything these people would need to find a permanent place after 2 years.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24960 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Where do you think they're going to go, exactly?


Move in with one of their 3 baby daddies.

Move in with other relatives.

Become roommates with someone else who lost their section 8 at the 2 year limit.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18772 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:21 pm to
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A 2 year cap on receiving section 8 means that there's going to be a lot less people in the program.



That's not true, under the existing rules there are long waiting lists for those to get on the program. This won't cut down on demand as much as ramp up the turnover rate. This might cut down those that just sit on Section 8, but there will be others to fill in.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5035 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:27 pm to
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As of August 2025, there is a proposal (Still ONLY a proposal) that would impose a two-year time limit on Section 8 rental assistance for households that do not include a senior or a person with a disability


Great, so the net effect of this will be even more than the current shocking amount of people who live on disability checks.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4565 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:32 pm to
Sounds good, should be temporary. Only bad thing would be if you lucked out with good tenants and they had to leave. Should make it 2 year even with disabled and elderly. Everyone is disabled these days and the elderly should have prepared better.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56710 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:47 pm to
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Where do you think they're going to go, exactly?


That has no bearing on the issue. Gentrification happens all the time, the people move to other parts of the city, state, or other states in general.
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