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re: Prominent Physician: Don't get a COVID shot
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:20 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:20 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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My grandparents would have laughed in my face had I told them I wasn’t coming over because of COVID, but my grandparents weren’t indoctrinated lemmings willing to sacrifice what little time they had left based on the contradictory words of unelected bureaucrats from another country.
Your grandparents must have been uneducated as hell.
Covid is mild for most younger people but very deadly for the elderly.
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:33 pm to LSUfan20005
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can only relate to my own industry. If I have more than 6 negative reports per million units distributed, that's considered a failure.
Well we're not fabricating butt plugs here. The human body is infinitely more complex and even medicines deemed safe carry a risk.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:45 pm to Landmass
We keep kidding ourselves in these threads.
A large contingent of people (almost 100% of those that start threads on the topic) are not making a medical decision. They are making a socio-political decision and are desperately looking for any medical reason to support that decision.
A large contingent of people (almost 100% of those that start threads on the topic) are not making a medical decision. They are making a socio-political decision and are desperately looking for any medical reason to support that decision.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:02 pm to Obtuse1
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They are making a socio-political decision
100% correct. It's an odd phenomenon.
ETA: And they call others sheep. Smart.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:15 pm to Obtuse1
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large contingent of people (almost 100% of those that start threads on the topic) are not making a medical decision. They are making a socio-political decision and are desperately looking for any medical reason to support that decision.
This. 100%
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:18 pm to Landmass
He also still encourages the use of hydroxychloroquine.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:22 pm to Zappas Stache
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He also still encourages the use of hydroxychloroquine.
Well, he's a lemming.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:26 pm to borotiger
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Covid is mild for most younger people but very deadly for the elderly.
Everything is deadly to the elderly. Professor.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:29 pm to Philzilla2k
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Everything is deadly to the elderly. Professor
Actually, that's incorrect, student.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:34 pm to Landmass
What the hell is WND?
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:59 pm to bbeck
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Nope. Not even close, dude. I have an employee who's had natural Covid twice since November. And natural infection results in an antibody volume of .80 to a little over 1.00 U/mL in your blood. The vaccine induces levels well over 250 U/mL up into the 800s. You gotta math better, baw.
No. This is wrong. Most serology tests test for the nucleocapsid protein, which are produced in response to infection, but not by the current vaccines. Thus, it’s very likely vaccinated people will not show any antibodies in their test results.
Only if tested for the spike protein would you show any potential antibody result from vaccine alone.
It is becoming increasingly clear that natural immunity is better than vaccinated immunity. The CDC only recognizes vaccinated immunity and develops policies freeing vaccinated people from mask limits and restrictions (which trickles into our workplaces and communities) though so they can make money on their pharma investments.
NYT Study LINK
John Hopkins Professor LINK
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:02 pm to RedPants
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To have this many people globally take a vaccine at the same time and we see so few adverse reactions is a miracle of modern medicine.
This is one of the real tragedies of our current divide at all costs media and political climate. Less than 15 months after a novel virus causes a global pandemic the US has 3 vaccines that provide near complete protection with functionally zero risk. These vaccines are available in every town in America for free. We should be celebrating this as triumph of the American system on par with the moon landing or winning WWII. To steal from Peter o’toole we’ve become a nation of small tribes, a small people, a silly people.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:24 pm to ned nederlander
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We should be celebrating this as triumph of the American system on par with the moon landing or winning WWII. To steal from Peter o’toole we’ve become a nation of small tribes, a small people, a silly people.
While perfectly said, you will get many downvotes.
Don't disagree with the heard on this board or you will be labeled a sheep. Funny as hell actually.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 11:27 pm to Obtuse1
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We keep kidding ourselves in these threads.
Most anti- Covid vax threads are emotion disguised as reason. The posters share from biased sources no better than motherjones.com and will quote any quack who seems to agree with their established beliefs, which are largely rooted in an exaggerated distrust of government.
The vaccines are safer than natural infection within the same short time frame that we have been studying covid. We know this. 1 billion shots have been dispensed and adverse reactions are rare. Deaths are minuscule. No matter how indolent one believes Covid to be, the vaccine comes with less short term risk.
Outside of the pandemic time frame, long term effects from both methods of exposure are still unknown. There is no current scientific reason, however, to foresee future complications from the vaccine. History tells us that natural infection is also likely riskier in the long run if we compare other infections to their corresponding vaccines.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 5/26/21 at 11:32 pm to borotiger
I am curious about the post Old Money made,graph showing that medical malpractice is the 3rd leading cause of death.I have hard time believing that.
I have read the study Harvard did concluding that medical errors were the 3rd leading cause of death.Medical errors made by Drs.,nurses,pharmacists,etc.
I have read the study Harvard did concluding that medical errors were the 3rd leading cause of death.Medical errors made by Drs.,nurses,pharmacists,etc.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 11:39 pm to Zappas Stache
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He also still encourages the use of hydroxychloroquine
So does Turkey
There Drs claim its part of what stopped issues there
Posted on 5/26/21 at 11:46 pm to LSUA 75
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I am curious about the post Old Money made,graph showing that medical malpractice is the 3rd leading cause of death.I have hard time believing that.
I have read the study Harvard did concluding that medical errors were the 3rd leading cause of death.Medical errors made by Drs.,nurses,pharmacists,etc.
The ~250k deaths per year study is an outlier most place it far below that. There was a meta-analysis done and it placed the number closer to 1/10th of that.
It is a subject that is near and dear to me partially because my wife is a surgeon but primarily because a significant portion of my practice has been in the med-mal area on both sides of the court room.
I personally don't think the 1/4 million number per year is accurate but think 40-50k is more in lign with reality.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 1:40 am to armsdealer
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So now you understand the math behind survival rates and that COVID was overblown by HUUGE proportions.
If 1 death out of 200 infections is "overblown", what do you call 1 death out of tens of thousands of vaccinations?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 1:56 am to TaderSalad
quote:Are you not only suggesting that these 4k deaths were actually caused by vaccines, but also that the number is really ~20-100 times larger? If there were 80k-400k deaths caused by vaccines, you don't think we'd notice?
And VAERS is typically indicative of only 1-6% of actual issues.
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