re: Prince suicide theory

Well that settles it

Disagree. If he OD'd it wasn't on purpose. Instead, it was the classic Happy Trails Cocktail of meds: painkillers, xanax or valium, antidepressants, maybe some soma or cyclobenzaprene, sleeping pills, all in excessive combination.

That's the stuff you usually find in a OD'd star--meds in excessive combination, due to prolonged use, increasing tolerance, and the self-medicator's ultimate downfall: disregard for the lethal potential of mixing meds.

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Disagree. If he OD'd it wasn't on purpose. Instead, it was the classic Happy Trails Cocktail of meds: painkillers, xanax or valium, antidepressants, maybe some soma or cyclobenzaprene, sleeping pills, all in excessive combination. That's the stuff you usually find in a OD'd star--meds in excessive combination, due to prolonged use, increasing tolerance, and the self-medicator's ultimate
downfall: disregard for the lethal potential of mixing meds.

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Something along these lines is what I'd expect. A brilliantly talented person with physical and emotional pain and the proper people around him that can provide these substances. To top it off, he was fairly small and probably increasingly frail as his body began to break down.

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Death don't give a shite if you are famous.

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Can't be over emphasized.

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If I start taking percocets will I at least be able to play rhythm?

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Only if you could before hand. With appropriate pain relief, people are functional. That's the goal. Unfortunately and what many don't understand is that functional and "appropriate" pain relief is not pain free. If you are pain free in many cases, you are overmedicated and risks of adverse side effects go up exponentially. Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. People on chronic pain meds have shorter life spans. He could have done it intentionally or he could have been self medicating to try and get some relief. I'm sure constant performances in high heels are hell on bad hips and ankles. He may have just said frick it. I'm gonna feel good and I'm gonna play my music and entertain until I die. If being in less pain leads to a shorter life, frick it. That's not suicide. And it's a problem many people with chronic pain run into. Be less active and take less or be themselves, do the shite they want and require more meds. It's a complicated issue that the uneducated always chalk up to "dope head pt's and greedy pill pushing doctors".

ETA-so my theory is intentional overmedication but unintentional death. But I think he probably made a conscious decision. Most people think it will never happen to them though. They just want to feel good. Especially with his history of clean living and JW background. I've never heard of any other stories of Prince and substance abuse.

It's obvious that he was murdered. Hopefully Courtney won't get away with it this time.

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I highly doubt he killed himself. Just don't see it.

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Did you think Cobain would eat a shotgun?

Smack:
Thanks for posting an informed opinion on the topic. They are often all too rare on the OT.

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Smack: Thanks for posting an informed opinion on the topic. They are often all too rare on the OT.

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There are way too many misconceptions and way too little education pertaining to chronic pain management. The abusers and shitheads have skewed people's opinions of the medicines, the patients, and the doctors. So now we have a situation in which everyone on chronic pain meds are labeled "seekers" "Pill heads" or some other derogatory term, doctors fear being labeled pill pushers or being accused of being legal drug dealers. This leads to your better doctors that should be rx'ing and overseeing pain pt's being scared to and legit pt's having to seek care from less reputable and less ethical sources if they choose to seek care at all. Nothing pisses me off more than some of the ill informed, self righteous dickbags that post on here and in other forums about shite they have no clue about.

It's a complex problem and stigmatizing legit pain pt's does nothing but worsen it. I've seen legit pt's lower themselves to obtaining pills illegally because they fear being labeled drug seekers by their PCP or other docs. Of course, I've seen docs willing to write whatever someone wants if they can pay the price. But MOST pt's on pain management are legit and MOST doctors prescribing their meds do it because they think it's the best or only option to lessen the patient's symptoms.

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What pain?

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He had hip surgery several years ago.