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re: Press should be 'held accountable' for coronavirus panic: 'They are hurting people'

Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:14 am to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51040 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:14 am to
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Again, for the dullards who keep saying this, the mortality rate is at least 3x that of the flu.


No one knows the mortality rate because no one knows how many people have been infected. It’s likely that tens of millions have already had, and recovered from, the virus.

Ignorantly throwing out numbers based on “confirmed” cases is part of the problem.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:19 am to
Italy having such a high death rate is interesting. Traditionally the elderly live with the family in much of Europe. Much more common than in the US

It would seem like there would be a higher exposure rate in that situation than you would likely see in the US
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:21 am to
Well a medical expert. Maybe he should stick to babysitting Steven Adler.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10117 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:22 am to
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If you think we can only test/only have tested 10k people for this, I don't know what else to tell you. You're dealing in non-reality.



Tell me how many tests we have run please.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94823 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:23 am to
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Tell me how many tests we have run please.


I don't know.

I don't know how many humans inhabit this planet, either, but I know it is more than 10,000.

What else you got?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46308 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:24 am to
No Italy didn’t get a “massive dose”. They have the second oldest population in the world, smoke more than just about anyone, and hit it an area that had an insane number of elderly people.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86314 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:24 am to
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I think we end up with around 5-10K deaths when it’s all said and done.


So still less than the flu. Some of yall should never leave your house again.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19007 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:26 am to
When you awake this AM, pray for calm.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 4:18 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27591 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:27 am to
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Ignorantly throwing out numbers based on “confirmed” cases is part of the problem.




You are talking about the flu too, right?

Not everybody is tested for the flu. Not every death comes with an autopsy. Old folks and sicks folks die. Not all get an autopsy. Did the flu tip them over?

ALL we have to go by is confirmed cases and then deaths. Far from perfect, but that is it.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86314 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:27 am to
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No one knows the mortality rate because no one knows how many people have been infected. It’s likely that tens of millions have already had, and recovered from, the virus.

Ignorantly throwing out numbers based on “confirmed” cases is part of the problem.


This too. I had a cold recently, which is corona virus. For all I know, ive already had Covid19 and am done with it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51040 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:37 am to
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You are talking about the flu too, right?

Not everybody is tested for the flu. Not every death comes with an autopsy. Old folks and sicks folks die. Not all get an autopsy. Did the flu tip them over?

ALL we have to go by is confirmed cases and then deaths. Far from perfect, but that is it.


“Far from perfect” may be the understatement of the year.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12025 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:42 am to
Op is is spot on. This is another variation of bird flu, swine flu etc. it spreads just the same. Regular flu still more deadly. The media reaction to this is crazy.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20021 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:03 am to
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good dude. nobody want you there


Awesome. Since, according to the dims who are trying to re-open travel to china, it must not be all that bad. Regardless, no need or desire to go to a shite-infested state.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52479 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:04 am to
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Less than 5,000 people will die in Italy from this.

I'm on the don't panic side of this, but how many would die if Italy did not take extreme steps?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
43006 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:41 am to
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This too. I had a cold recently, which is corona virus.


This really highlight the lack of understanding most people have. There are over 200 different common cold viruses, 4 are Corona viruses. SARS and MERS are also Corona viruses. In fact COVID-19 is also referred to as SARS-CoV-2.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:04 am to
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Which should you be worried about, influenza or corona, 100 versus 18,000?


Dumbest statistic of the “it’s nothing crowd”.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16425 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:11 am to
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If 100 people get the flu and one dies; if 100 people get COVID-19 then 3+ will die.

With all due respect, you're coming to a conclusion based on numbers that are totally incomplete. The other side isn't right, either. We just don't know.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
54061 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Dr. Drew talks with CBS Local's DJ Sixsmith about coronavirus: “The panic must stop. And the press, they really somehow need to be held accountable because they are hurting people.”

CBS NEWS: “So you’ve seen pandemics over the decades, how does this one compare with everything?”

DR. DREW: “A bad flu season is 80,000 dead, we’ve got about 18,000 dead from influenza this year, we have a hundred from corona. Which should you be worried about influenza or Corona? A hundred versus 18,000? It’s not a trick question. And look, everything that’s going on with the New York cleaning the subways and everyone using Clorox wipes and get your flu shot, which should be the other message, that’s good. That’s a good thing, so I have no problem with the behaviors. What I have a problem with is the panic and the fact that businesses are getting destroyed that people’s lives are being upended, not by the virus, but by the panic. The panic must stop. And the press, they really somehow need to be held accountable because they are hurting people.”

CBS NEWS: “So, where do you think the panic started? Besides the press, like what was the impetus in terms of mass hysteria?”

DR. DREW: “I saw it, there’s a footage of me on a show called The Daily Blast Live a month ago, going ‘shouldn’t we be scared about this?’ and me going ‘no, there’s gonna be as potential for panic here, shut up everybody, stop talking about it, I could see the panic brewing, and I could just see it the way the innuendo and the every opportunity for drama by the press was twisted in that direction. Let me give you an example: so the World Health Organization is out now saying the fatality rate from the virus is 3.4%, right? Every publication from the WHO says 3.4% and we expect it to fall dramatically once we understand the full extent of the illness. No one ever reports the actual statement. We go 3.4% that’s 10 times more than the, whatever five times more than the flu virus and yeah it’s gonna be a little more [than the] flu probably. Still not a bad flu season.”

CBS NEWS: “Right, we’re gonna hear about more cases, more people died.”

DR. DREW: “There are probably several people in this building that probably have it and don’t know it.”

CBS NEWS: “Right, well it was also just the process of letting the public know, the stock market, the number of tests that were available, there was so much happening, I think people were freaking out as a result of that.”

DR. DREW: “I think there was it was a concerted effort by the press to capture your eyes and in doing so they did it by inducing panic. There’s, listen, the CDC and the WHO, they know what they are doing, they contain pandemics, that’s how they know how to do it, they’re doing an amazing job.”

CBS NEWS: “What about the global implications of this because we were talking off-camera about Italy, there’s China as well, there’s some little outbreaks where you should avoid.

DR. DREW: “There are, I would look out where there flus out breaking bad to. I ended up getting the bird flu, I got H1N1 and it was horrible. It was no fun. … There’s certain things having been a physician for almost forty years, there are certain things I just know … and there’s certain things I just know by virtue of all the experience I’ve had and so when I saw this one coming, the corona, I thought I know how this is gonna go, I see kind of what it is and then I saw the excessive reaction the press, so I have to respond and then people, the weird part on social media towards me as people are angry with me, angry with me for trying to get them to see reality and calm down.”

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