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re: President Trump Signs H.R.724 – A Law to Prevent Animal Cruelty and Torture
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:24 am to cave canem
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:24 am to cave canem
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is a waste of time that will be struck down by SC after wasting more time and money getting there while we are at 23T in debt,
You have no way of knowing what the SCOTUS will decide. If you’re so worried about the debt- and I applaud your concern- there are numerous other things to complain about (think impeachment farce as the most current waste of money )that we can address.
You’re on the wrong Footing here. Like complaining about the $7.00 environmental fee on the $3000.00 auto repair bill for changing a belt.
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:12 am to GumboPot
Yay!
More laws! More government!
More ways for prosecutors to ignore the spirit of the law and ensnare good people!
ME-RI-CA!
ME-RI-CA!
ME-RI-CA!
More laws! More government!
More ways for prosecutors to ignore the spirit of the law and ensnare good people!
ME-RI-CA!
ME-RI-CA!
ME-RI-CA!
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:15 am to nola000
Must be some animal abusers up in here getting bent out of shape.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:18 am to GumboPot
Agree with the president on this one. 
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:18 am to dgnx6
Yeah. You don't get it. This is always the excuse. Save the children. Problem is, when do you repeal laws? Do you just layer on more and more until you're not allowed to do anything anymore without violating some law, somewhere?
There's a role for the federal government. This ain't it, podna.
There's a role for the federal government. This ain't it, podna.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 7:21 am
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:24 am to nola000
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Yeah. You don't get it. This is always the excuse. Save the children. Problem is, when do you repeal laws? Do you just layer on more and more until you're not allowed to do anything anymore without violating some law, somewhere?
It is like the proverbial silk thread, I can place one on your back and you will never even notice it yet if I continue to do so I can break your back with them.
This is a state issue
Was crushing animals really a big problem especially dead ones?
How many here are aware that most euthanized animals end up in landfills? Guess what the compactor driver is now a federal felon.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:47 am to Proximo
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Go ahead and enlighten us as to why
You can’t regulate crushing. You can regulate sharing videos on the internet, and crushing with a car. However, if someone wanted to jump on a mouse, can’t make that a federal crime.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:55 am to MintBerry Crunch
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You can’t regulate crushing. You can regulate sharing videos on the internet, and crushing with a car.
That fact that you need to even consider doing it, much less actually do it, is kinda sad. Who would EVER think that crushing an animal was something that was OK to do? It's absolutely disgusting.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:59 am to GumboPot
How is this law not unconstitutional under the 10th Amendment?
There's no compelling interstate commerce issue that I can think of
Can anyone explain?
There's no compelling interstate commerce issue that I can think of
Can anyone explain?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:15 am to No Colors
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How is this law not unconstitutional under the 10th Amendment?
There's no compelling interstate commerce issue that I can think of
Can anyone explain?
It is and we will spend millions defending it prior to it being struck down wasting numerous courts time, but yay feelings.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:19 am to SSpaniel
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Who would EVER think that crushing an animal was something that was OK to do?
So if you see a small animal get hit by a car and it’s flopping around suffering, finishing it off should be a felony?
This law seems poorly thought out
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:20 am to fr33manator
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So if you see a small animal get hit by a car and it’s flopping around suffering, finishing it off should be a felony?
That's not what they are addressing, but you know this already.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:26 am to No Colors
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There's no compelling interstate commerce issue that I can think of
What does selling BBQ in Alabama have to do with interstate commerce?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:28 am to GumboPot
Frick animals, stop killing babies
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:31 am to No Colors
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How is this law not unconstitutional under the 10th Amendment?
There's no compelling interstate commerce issue that I can think of
Can anyone explain?
I can't.
Every new law will be tested and molded through our judicial system. It sucks for the people that have to go through the judicial system to define the limits of the law but this is just the way our system works. And it can take decades to flesh out those limits. But in the meantime if you don't want to be the test case at the federal level I would suggest, avoid crushing puppies.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:32 am to SSpaniel
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That's not what they are addressing, but you know this already.
My point is that laws, however good natured and well intended, can often be abused and misused.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:36 am to MintBerry Crunch
If you outlaw animal crushing only outlaws will have crushed animals
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:41 am to GumboPot
Pointless, feel good legislation that further eroded states’ rights. I’m not looking forward to the pendulum swing under the next Democratic regime.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:45 am to GumboPot
How much different is this from the Animal Crush Video Prohibition Act of 2010?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:50 am to cave canem
Go ahead and enlighten us as to why
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I have. Now, enlighten us why the SC will overturn this law.
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Read it
I have. Now, enlighten us why the SC will overturn this law.
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