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re: Preliminary Ratings: Lacombe Tornado - EF1; NOLA/Arabi Tornado - EF3

Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:26 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:26 am to
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Isnt this like 10 million people in orange?



Between the Houston and dallas metros you are looking at over 14 mil
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:29 am to
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The marine layer destroys severe storms here


The marine layer isnt really the limiter here. Afternoon timing and 24+ hours of return flow. It'll mix.

Other factors suggest a line vs discrete for Louisiana, with the typical I12ish launching point for individual cells that dont mature until the state line.

But when the potential is there for strong tornadoes, you want people ready where it could happen not just where its most likely to happen.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75122 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:52 am to
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Right but it won’t be as far south as south Louisiana. These things are almost always north of the Louisiana/Mississippi line. It’s going to consolidate into a single line here and we’ll all just get a bunch of rain and lightning.

Just to add some reason to the hope here.

Not all lines are the same. On the 12z NAMnst, I just pulled three consecutive PDS Tornado soundings....in the line. Literally every single sounding in or in front of the line that you pull right now is a Tornado sounding. Do not think just because it lines out that there isn't s significant tornado risk. That's a very risky gamble to make with parameters as they will be, especially if you have to travel.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:54 am to
So looking like a scary afternoon in DFW?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:58 am to
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So looking like a scary afternoon in DFW?


I think south of DFW proper and east of 35 is the "scariest" but you guys got risk too as the dryline advances. If I was chasing today, Id be thinking somewhere a little east of Waco.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:00 am to
From your mouth to God’s ears. Thanks!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75122 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:02 am to
Blow the Sparrow nests out of the hail and wind sirens just in case, though.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:03 am to
The QLCS aint likely to be playing nice, you're right about that. Plenty of bowing segments and embedded tornadoes. That at least takes the high end tors out if you only get the line but you can get EF2s in a line like this.

And Im not sold on the CAMs solution of very little prefrontal action, just that I think what does happen probably doesnt really kick off until Mississippi.

Might be too much shear for individual cells to sustain a good updraft for the prefrontal stuff but we wont know that until we see em get their heads cut off.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:06 am to
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From your mouth to God’s ears. Thanks!


It is Dallas in March though. Somebody could fart in an upward direction and you guys get hail and the tornado risk is there... I just suspect it is maximized to your south.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75122 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:06 am to
I just hate the ol' "It is just a line" deal, especially when people will be out in it.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38449 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:07 am to
We gon die?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:09 am to
A derecho is just a line right?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:09 am to
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We gon die?


Eventually
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16401 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:10 am to
Crap. That looks pretty bad for middle of the state.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50745 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:16 am to
“Just a line” can still be bad but most of the time, in our part of the world, it’s nothing more than a shite ton of lightning, small hail, and gusty wind. It’s usually not going to put down strong tornadoes or large hail like the individual severe storms do. To me it appears the trend is towards a line of severe storms. After going through Ida’s eyewall for two hours, I say bring it bitch!
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:17 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147090 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:47 am to
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It is Dallas in March though. Somebody could fart in an upward direction and you guys get hail and the tornado risk is there... I just suspect it is maximized to your south.

Duke... I must know more about the science of Fart Hail
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75122 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:48 am to
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the science of Fart Hail

It has a sulfury smell to it, I bet.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147090 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:49 am to
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Meteorologist Nick Mikulas
We are closing in on our much advertised severe weather event that should start to impact parts of the area by later tonight. Here’s how things are looking, and what to expect.

Apart from some small timing issues, I think I have a pretty good handle on how this is going to play out. Scattered storms are possible as far east as Leesville and Shreveport by late this afternoon and evening. These will move to the north northeast, and will likely stay below severe limits until after midnight in those areas. A severe storm is possible, but that won’t be the main event. The rest of the area will see some spotty showers as moisture flows in from the Gulf of Mexico. All in all, it looks like things stay pretty tame in Central Louisiana through midnight.

By midnight, a severe line of storms should be draped from roughly Texarkana to College Station TX. This line will very slowly creep into northwest Louisiana, causing flooding rain, and potentially several rounds of severe weather in spots.

By 7:00 AM, that line will be roughly along a Ruston to Many, LA corridor, and continue a slow march to the east, as individual cells in the line move to the northeast. The big question after sunrise will be if we get supercells to develop ahead of the main line. It’s entirely possible that this happens, but for now, I think the most likely scenario is that we see cells develop immediately ahead of the line that get absorbed by the main line of storms. That would still be problematic, as these cell mergers could cause isolated tornadoes. There will also be 60-75 mph wind only a couple thousand feet above ground level. These winds will easily get pulled down to the surface in any thunderstorm, causing scattered wind damage. That’s our most widespread threat. Hail could also be an issue, especially with any isolated cells ahead of the line.

There are still some details to resolve, but SPC has most of the area in a level 3 or 4 out of 5 severe risk sometime late Monday into Tuesday. The parameters in place for severe weather are probably a 9 out of 10 on how high they get, though that’s admittedly a scale I just made up in my head. That being said, cooler shelf waters in the northern Gulf of Mexico could help temper the severe threat a bit, especially as you get closer to I-10. The tornado threat could end up a bit lower if we don’t see isolated cells ahead of the main line. The two things that looks likely no matter what are scattered damaging wind gusts in the 50-75 mph range, and very heavy rain that will cause flooding in spots. The heaviest should fall over northwest Louisiana where a stripe of 4-8 inches is possible. A general 2-4 inches is likely across the rest of the state, with isolated higher totals possible. Prime time for all this in Central Louisiana will be 7:00 AM until 3:00 PM, with 3-6 hours of active weather in a given location. I’ll do a ding free livestream later to go over this with some model data, and maybe a little technical talk to make me feel smart. My wife told me I still have to do these long winded text updates because some people can’t watch videos at work. Updates will be cranking out for the next day. That’s for sure.



Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147090 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:50 am to
I'm kinda intrigued by the marginal risk up in Missouri for tomorrow... considering Loyola University New Orleans men's basketball team is playing in the NAIA National Championship semifinals tonight in Kansas City... and if they win that will be playing in the Finals tomorrow night
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:53 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147090 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:52 am to
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quote:

We gon die?

Eventually

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