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re: Pope John Paul II covered up child abuse as cardinal in Poland

Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:50 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:50 am to
The Catholic Church is a global child rape syndicate

I said my piece, Chrissy
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:51 am to
This is very sad to read as I always held pj2 in high regard

The amount of cover up in the church must be astounding and beyond what we even know today which is a lot.

It’s hard to look at any of the clergy as faithful and honest
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:52 am to
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WTF are you talking about? The pedophile stuff in the church has been going on LONG before wokeness was a thing.


I never said the two are mutually exclusive. Try to keep up champ.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60666 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:52 am to
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as I always held pj2 in high regard


this one is different, i know it!
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
2601 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:52 am to
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True, but if you allowed priests to get married and have a family you'd probably have a better recruiting pool to pull from.



They could have just punished the priests instead of creating a safe haven for that type of behavior. Talk about a recruitment tool.

Start with that then they can discuss if Father Fran can have a wife.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:52 am to
Major church being crooked. Imagine that.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:59 am to
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I never said the two are mutually exclusive.


So you are saying that there are two main culprits of the pedophile problem? Flawed people and wokeness? How much worse is pedophilia in the church in the past 5-10 years for you to come to the conclusion that wokeness is a big culprit?
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:00 am to
shite like this is why I don't consider myself a Catholic anymore.. I really can't stand priests
Posted by Party At LSU
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:01 am to
If you haven’t seen the movie Spotlight, I highly highly recommend watching it.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1243 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:03 am to
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So you are saying that there are two main culprits of the pedophile problem? Flawed people and wokeness? How much worse is pedophilia in the church in the past 5-10 years for you to come to the conclusion that wokeness is a big culprit?


No, I'm saying that in addition to the pedophile priest problem of decades past, the church also has a liberal priest problem, and both should have been, and continue to be, treated in the same manner. Anathema.

In other words, the individual people are the problem as Loup said, but the church leadership's leniency towards its own issues is also contributing to the problem.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:03 am to
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Maybe if the Catholic Church allowed their priests to marry there wouldn’t be so many goddamn pedohpiles in their ranks


Maybe not being able to marry an adult female and being attracted to kids have nothing to do with one another.

"I can't get married to an adult female? I guess I'll just rape altar boys instead."
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:09 am to
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oh yeah, I can’t do that funeral tomorrow bc my son’s travel ball team is playing 2 hours away


This isn't a problem in other churches where preachers/ministers are allowed to marry.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:10 am to
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The possibility this stuff is made up about PJP is about as good as the possibility that Cosby never drugged and raped women
so we have proof PJP2 actually knew these priests had accusations when he transferred/recommended them, or do we have papers he signed?


This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 10:14 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:13 am to
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No, I'm saying that in addition to the pedophile priest problem of decades past, the church also has a liberal priest problem,


And all I am asking is how you came to your conclusion. If wokeness and liberal ideology in the church, which has only been a thing the past 5-10 years, is a big factor as you say, then you should see a correlation or increase in cases during that time period, no?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:13 am to
PJP2 tGOATPONTIFF in my lifetime
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60605 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:14 am to
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This isn't a problem in other churches where preachers/ministers are allowed to marry.
no, they have a bunch of other problems also, including pedophilia

Catholic priests were allowed to marry in the early church, apparently early church leaders found the need to change it
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1243 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:16 am to
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And all I am asking is how you came to your conclusion. If wokeness and liberal ideology in the church, which has only been a thing the past 5-10 years, is a big factor as you say, then you should see a correlation or increase in cases during that time period, no?


You're specifically discussing the pedophile issue, but I'm not. I think that's where the misunderstanding is rooted.

I'm talking about the pedophile issue and the issue of the church not enforcing the metaphorical line in the sand in general when it comes to resolving issues with the clergy, which includes pedophilia
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 10:18 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18531 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:18 am to
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what about the pedophiles in the school districts? Marital status has nothing to do with pedophilia
hey man nobody said pedophiles don’t come from all over and all walks of life but let’s not pretend there isn’t a large section of the Catholic Church that behaved in that manner. Just like we know anyone can commit murder but in America there are certain groups more likely to kill people than other groups.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
150361 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:20 am to
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This isn't a problem in other churches where preachers/ministers are allowed to marry.
don't be naive


Go ahead and let your kid go on Christian rock and roll concert trips with the youth pastor in his bedazzled skinny jeans and spiked gel hair
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111465 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:21 am to
“I’m sending my kid to Catholic school. Not going to let a govt that supports pedos and woke people running my kids school”

Things that make you go hmmmm
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 10:21 am
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