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Poor Jeffrey Dahmer

Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2655 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:34 pm
This sick fricker was killing, dismembering, and literally cooking and eating people for years and when he tried the mental insanity defense, they told him to get his crazy arse in the prison cell. No "mental health" sympathies for you.

Meanwhile, a pampered white lady from the Boston suburbs strangles her three children and apparently "hearing voices" one time for 5 minutes is enough evidence that she's too f'ed in the head to be responsible for her actions.

But please, let's hear more about the patriarchy.

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80776 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:40 pm to
Dahmer meticulously planned and executed 17 murders over the course of 13 years. The prosecution was able to show that he knew right from wrong and could control his actions.

The prosecution in the Clancy trial has struggled to do that. We'll see what the jury thinks.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
19140 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:42 pm to
I don't see how she gets off on this. She'll obviously get a lower sentence than any man would get for a similar crime, but thats par for the course in our legal system. I just hope it's long enough to essentially end her life in prison.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 2:42 pm
Posted by BU Bear In BR
NOLA
Member since Apr 2022
482 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:42 pm to
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We'll see what the jury thinks.


It's 9 women on the jury. I think we can predict what they're gonna think unfortunately
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
63334 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:48 pm to
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executed 17 murders


That we know of.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37690 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:55 pm to
She knew right from wrong when she confessed the temptation to kill her kids separately to her husband and her mother.

Planning ahead (to have the husband out of the house) to carry out murder also demonstrates an ability to control the impulse until no one was present to stop the crime. That's premeditation and the ability to control the impulse.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80776 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:01 pm to
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She knew right from wrong when she confessed the temptation to kill her kids separately to her husband and her mother.


She may have known it at that time, but then later could have had a psychotic episode, would you agree?


quote:

Planning ahead (to have the husband out of the house) to carry out murder also demonstrates an ability to control the impulse until no one was present to stop the crime. That's premeditation and the ability to control the impulse.



How much testomony from experts regarding her premeditatation is in evidence for the jury?

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37690 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:12 pm to
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She may have known it at that time, but then later could have had a psychotic episode, would you agree?


No

Could is an inappropriate word choice. Anything could happen. There's not a reasonable chance that she had a novel psychotic episode at exactly the time when she planned to have the husband and other family members unable to stop her.

Premeditation is baked into the texts from her directing her husband to be elsewhere combined with the timing of the murders.

Unless you have an OJ jury situation there's no reasonable doubt
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
580 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:17 pm to
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It's 9 women on the jury.


I was recently on the jury here in Houston for a child sexual abuse case. Pretty even split between male and female. Some young and some old.

We found him guilty of all charges for sexually abusing two sisters, both under 7 years old, for over a year. Took us about 30 minutes of deliberation.

After we determined guilt, we heard testimony of unrelated cases where there were additional victims. All young girls.

We, then, go to the room to determine his punishment. Under the law, we were allowed to give him life or a minimum of 25 up to 99 years.

I thought we were going wrap up quick and give him life right away. Three younger women (late 20s) thought that life was too long and maybe after 25 years he could change. He might find God and we should show mercy. I couldn't believe it. It muddied the water and then others were saying 45-50 years might be good.

Myself and another guy convinced them and the other jurors that if he is guilty of what we said he was guilty of then the only acceptable sentence is life. That we couldn't speculate on his remorse. That it wasn't our job to show mercy, because he showed no mercy to those girls. Took about 2 hours. Gave him life without parole. Felt good too.

Multiple people on jury said he deserved death, but that wasn't on the table.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80776 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:21 pm to
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Could is an inappropriate word choice. Anything could happen. There's not a reasonable chance that she had a novel psychotic episode at exactly the time when she planned to have the husband and other family members unable to stop her.


I said could for that exact reason.

Then if it's possible that it could happen, do you believe from the testimony that's in evidence that beyond the shadow of a doubt she didn't have a psychotic episode?

No need to answer, that's what the jury is contemplating now. I think it's likely that they come back with NGRI based on the evidence presented and how NGRI is legally set up procedurally in Massachusetts.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56666 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:25 pm to
Bitch knew what she was doing. At the very least sterilize her.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37690 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:39 pm to
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Could is an inappropriate word choice. Anything could happen. There's not a reasonable chance that she had a novel psychotic episode at exactly the time when she planned to have the husband and other family members unable to stop her.


I said could for that exact reason.

Then if it's possible that it could happen, do you believe from the testimony that's in evidence that beyond the shadow of a doubt she didn't have a psychotic episode?



You keep using the wrong framing for a jury judgement.

Beyond the shadow of a doubt is a completely unreasonable standard with no relevance. With that standard functionally no criminals will receive punishment because anyone can claim to have had a novel psychiatric break when they killed, raped, whatever.

A jury with a determined bias against conviction (that is, a bias against obeying the legal standards) might attempt that logic but only because an appropriate "reasonable doubt" standard leads to a conviction they are biased against.

Which happens, but it isn't reasonable and unequal enforcement of the law is a function of an unjust system. The OJ trial is an easy analogy here.

This is a terrible story that reflects poorly on the people excusing the murders by defending the murderer. If she gets off there will be copycat murders of children by mothers using PPD or PPS as a planned defense
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17213 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:45 pm to
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We'll see what the jury thinks.


I have not faith in judges, juries or the whole judicial system as a whole.


But I do have faith that she will be called to account for her actions, in this life or the next.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
31141 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:51 pm to
The amount of loony white bitches that have come out in support of this child murderer should open up a lot of eyes. You want to know why this country gets more and more fricked up all the time? Because society caters to and coddles these crazies to a point where responsibility and accountability are foreign concepts.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80776 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:51 pm to
You're correct, definitely mistyped. Beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62970 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:57 pm to
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beyond the shadow of a doubt


Not the standard. At all.
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
584 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 4:20 pm to
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Dahmer meticulously planned and executed 17 murders over the course of 13 years. The prosecution was able to show that he knew right from wrong and could control his actions.


America’s Favorite Child Killing Sweetheart did the following:

- scheduled her husband to be out of the house, like she was planning for Jody to come over for a quickie
- herded her kids to the basement
- strangled her middle child so hard his brains were coming out the base of his skull
- took a break and called her husband back

Dahmer averaged 1.3 murders a year. Lindsey did 3 in an hour. Dahmer is an amateur compared to her.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80776 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 4:24 pm to
Sidenote: The jury wasn't unanimous regarding the NGRI issue for Dahmer. It was 10-2.
Posted by GuhGuh1
Member since Aug 2026
20 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 4:35 pm to
This X1000! Well done!
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