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re: Poll: Americans moving away from religion

Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:21 pm to
I'm not judging people's personal beliefs. I'm judging the concept of organized religion, big difference.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12489 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:21 pm to
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. I will just take my chances here, by his blessings and positive things that have been happening in my life, I dont want it any other way.

So if those "blessings" are a sign that you're being rewarded for your good faith, then to be intellectually honest you must also recognize tragedies in the life of a good Christian as a sign that God is not looking out for them. A good friend of mine is a devout Christian who goes to church every Sunday. A couple of months ago, his 7 year old daughter died in her sleep from an unknown heart defect. Based on your faith/reward system that would seem to suggest that there is in fact not a God blessing the lives of those who worship him. But let me guess, you think that his daughter dying was somehow a part of "God's plan" and "God works in mysterious ways".
So when something happens that makes you happy, it's obviously God blessing you
But when something horribly tragic happens, God is just being mysterious.
So literally ANYTHING could happen and it will always reinforce your belief that God exists.
That kind of thinking is intellectually dishonest but it's very understandable why it's so prevalent because it makes you feel good
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:21 pm to
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Should have been done a long, long time ago.


To the NFL, yes I agree.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:22 pm to
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But see it didn't stop there. They(the people pushing this agenda) were not OK with just court houses. They want this blanket ruling to trickle to the alter as well. This is in violation of the constitution. They also wanted punative damages in forcing churches to lose their tax exempt status. Gay marriage shouldn't have anything to do with the latter, or forcing churches to perform them.


Let me see proof of this happening on a large scale. All the stuff I've seen is gay folks fighting for the right to get married legally.

This will never happen to churches FYI. So you can stop worrying.





Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:23 pm to
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I'm not judging people's personal beliefs. I'm judging the concept of organized religion, big difference.



Yep.


People can't separate the two. I am not an atheist either. I am pretty spiritual. I just think organized religion, for the most part, is a man-made sham.

Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:24 pm to
I was raised Catholic, but now hold to other beliefs. I did not stick with what was taught to me... As a teenager I though about it, doubted, even doubted the existence of God, but came to my own personal conclusions and beliefs over a period of time.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36656 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:24 pm to
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When God showed himself to you, how long was it? Did it shine like the sun, and did angels sing when he showed it?


No, but not going into much detail because its not any of your buisness, he spoke to me through the spirit when I was at an all time low, like the lowest point of my life ever. And once I realized what he was telling me I had the most sense of ease and my pain and suffering was all of a sudden gone in an instant and I was set free. And then he sent me my future wife only a few days later, some things you just know that are heaven sent.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46730 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:26 pm to
Was she a virgin?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104485 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:26 pm to
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To the NFL, yes I agree.


Definitely. Football is basically a religion anyway.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:27 pm to
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religion, for the most part, is a man-made sham.

It took two paragraphs to express my thoughts. You wrote it all in half a sentence
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61612 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:28 pm to
Not everyone has extremely low points in their lives.

Why should someone like myself (upper middle class, white, college educated, from a stable household, etc. "find Jesus?"
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:30 pm to
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Let me see proof of this happening on a large scale. All the stuff I've seen is gay folks fighting for the right to get married legally.


All you had to do was watch the news right after SCOTUS released their ruling. It was all over the news channels. Its died down some, but only because the tranny movement is picking up steam.

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This will never happen to churches FYI. So you can stop worrying.

I don't care if gay couples want to get married. And honestly, don't care if they want to get married in churches. I am not worried at all.
Posted by Makinbacon
Member since Jul 2015
2791 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:32 pm to
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When someone tries to say my close gay friend and his partner



Gross
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72198 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:33 pm to
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A lot of people don't get religious until they are older.



it's too inconvenient for my current lifestyle

maybe later
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:35 pm to
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I was raised Catholic, but now hold to other beliefs.


I was raised Catholic as well. My issues with the church are not on a belief level as much as it is that I was force fed the religion by my parents. I stopped attending church in my 20's when I left home, and still don't go. But mainly because mass does absolutely nothing for me. Now with that said, my wife claims to love mass, yet she is too lazy to go. My son goes to a catholic school. I support what they teach to some degree, and when he's older, if he want's to go in his own direction spiritually and religiously, I am fine with that. If my parents knew I didn't attend mass with my family, they'd disown me. And I think that is pretty shitty. But I can't blame them, that is the way they were raised, and what they believe. So I just let them believe what they believe. As long as it's peaceful, then I am all good.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:48 pm to
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never said those other religions were silly, in fact I know absolutely nothing about them. All I know is what ive been taught my entire life, therefore I will go by the word that was promised to me in the word of the Bible and by Jesus and God and trust that he takes me when I die.



Wow

Just wow
Posted by Sofa King Crimson
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2008
4135 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:49 pm to
roll information and education roll!
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:50 pm to
Tigernation 84 has to be trolling
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 4:05 pm to
Personally I believe in Christianity. I however recognize the putrid ability of modern Christians to explain their beliefs and where they come from. Most simply spout clichés that even Christians find to be quite uninspiring and often cheesy.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 4:08 pm to
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Manners, Decency, Morality has gone out the window in Western Society.

If only we could go back to the halcyon days where blacks were sold as property, Indians were massacred, women couldn't vote, gays were harassed and beaten, and the mentally ill were imprisoned and tortured.
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