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re: Plane collides with helicopter over Reagan International Airport; Looking in Potomac
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:42 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:42 pm to OMLandshark
There’s always a steady flow of planes flying into DCA every day. You can’t miss the never-ending stream of lights of planes making their approach at night.
Any military pilot who has experience flying in that area would know the directions the planes are coming from at any given time. Truly bewildering how an Army Blackhawk pilot would not be on the lookout for a passenger plane on approach.
Any military pilot who has experience flying in that area would know the directions the planes are coming from at any given time. Truly bewildering how an Army Blackhawk pilot would not be on the lookout for a passenger plane on approach.
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:42 pm to IT_Dawg
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Seems from the ATC communication the H60 was told to fly behind the CRJ….the flight path on the H60 looks very odd and doesn’t look like he tried to fly behind him. Something weird
The view from above (lines on the map) shows he had to turn in order to cross the jet's path. Would have gone behind him staying straight.
The Kennedy Center view picks up after the turn and makes it look like he went right at the jet.
Looks deliberate, but I'm a layman. One of our pilots might be able to tell us if there's a way to make that mistake without intending to.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:42 pm to cubsfan5150
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That’s what air traffic controllers are for
Not if pilots are accepting a visual clearance.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:43 pm to jlovel7
Interesting to know if night vision goggles were/won't in use. Low level vision at night can be disconcerting with the amount of light pollution from large Metropolitan areas. Someone's head wasn't on a swivel.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:43 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Not if pilots are accepting a visual clearance.
Nailed it
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:44 pm to cubsfan5150
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:44 pm to Tuscaloosa
Who was on the -60?
Edit - 3 aircrew, apparently
Edit - 3 aircrew, apparently
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:45 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Not if pilots are accepting a visual clearance.
Obviously you’d know better than me, but I find it hard to believe that the air traffic controller isn’t responsible to ensure that two aircraft aren’t crossing paths too close, especially at night.
That’s crazy.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:45 pm to gaetti15
Just don't understand why the chopper is anywhere near the landing zone of the airport.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:45 pm to OMLandshark
frick man I hate hearing this….
Prayers sent for the families out there. Just so awful
Prayers sent for the families out there. Just so awful
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:46 pm to bayouvette
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Just don't understand why the chopper is anywhere near the landing zone of the airport.
I'm pretty sure the choppers are always flying on the east bank of the potomac in that general area. I know I've seen a bunch flying in/out of DCA before
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:47 pm to cubsfan5150
Pilot applied visual separation is very commonly used tool.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:48 pm to CuseTiger
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I'm pretty sure the choppers are always flying on the east bank of the potomac in that general area.
That’s what they’re saying on the tv too
Said that several three letter agencies utilize army helicopters in the city.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:48 pm to cubsfan5150
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Obviously you’d know better than me, but I find it hard to believe that the air traffic controller isn’t responsible to ensure that two aircraft aren’t crossing paths too close, especially at night.
The audio says they were in contact of the helicopter and even informed the Blackhawk what to do.
They did not for some reason
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:49 pm to UltimaParadox
Interesting
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:49 pm to CuseTiger
I was on a flight about 40 minutes out from landing at DCA and we got turned around to go back to BNA. Literally a “could have been me” moment.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:49 pm to bayouvette
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Just don't understand why the chopper is anywhere near the landing zone of the airport.
A major Military/Intel presence across from Reagan. Those helo pilots should've been following a published departure routing, and should've been advising Controllers of their intent.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:50 pm to CuseTiger
Reported the plane split in 2 and landed in 7’ of water per local news. Helicopter is upside down and not stable. Bobbing.
Divers on scene. Haven’t been able to get into the helicopter.
Divers on scene. Haven’t been able to get into the helicopter.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:50 pm to UltimaParadox
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The audio says they were in contact of the helicopter and even informed the Blackhawk what to do.
They did not for some reason
Seems pretty fricky if so
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:50 pm to cubsfan5150
Blackhawk was carrying senior brass from the CIA per BBC radio
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